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back alley

03-26-2012, 15:30

maybe i missed it...is there a published plan of fuji's showing what lenses they will produce next?

as much as i would like to buy a pro-x i wonder about the focal lengths that will be available.

i currently have 2 digital systems on the go, both with 1.5 crop factor...i must admit that 28mm is not to my liking, i love the 40 and 50 and zooms are completely unappreciated. if i'm going to use longer lenses it seems to make sense to use the dslr...that leaves the 40/50 for the drf. (also the wide 21mm)

i liked the 23/35 on the x100.

it doesn't really make any sense to get a pro-x...does it?

the x100 is attractive mostly because of the size and the af.

Keith

03-26-2012, 15:42

it doesn't really make any sense to get a pro-x...does it?

Keep talking yerself into it ... we'll watch from afar! :D

hollandphotos

03-26-2012, 15:48

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/10/Fujifilm_Roadmap

back alley

03-26-2012, 15:57

Spyro

03-26-2012, 16:05

28mm f/2.8 pancake

definitely using my CV28/3.5 instead of that, however good it might be. The CV is sharp, fast to focus, small, focus by feel with the tab, no aperture "chattering", long enough not to have any issues with wide M lenses on the fuji sensor, wide enough to make zone focusing by feel practical.

Not sacrificing all that for half a a stop of brightness :)

Same for the 23/2. I'm keeping my x100 for that, I always need a silent camera anyway and you never know when the monstrous flash sync will come handy.

As for the 14 I'm not interested, 28fov is as wide as I go and the 18/2 looks good enough to me, especially stopped down.

And the zooms...
what is zoom? :D

I think I'm good with what fuji is already offering plus my Ms.

back alley

03-26-2012, 16:13

this or that?
new or old?
af or mf?

i love the rd1 and the images it makes...but i am having more problems with manual focus lately. this past saturday i missed shots that i normally wouldn't have due to my slow focussing. the dslr has made it more clear that i will be needing af sooner than later.
but i don't really want to give up the rd1s...

aleksanderpolo

03-26-2012, 19:02

definitely using my CV28/3.5 instead of that, however good it might be. The CV is sharp, fast to focus, small, focus by feel with the tab, no aperture "chattering", long enough not to have any issues with wide M lenses on the fuji sensor, wide enough to make zone focusing by feel practical.

Not sacrificing all that for half a a stop of brightness :)

Have you checked out the M lenses test before the image were taken down due to bandwidth problem?

http://picabroad.com/2012/03/24/fuji-x-pro-1-grand-test-with-leica-m-mount-lenses/

Both Leica's 28 and 35 show corner smearing, so you might want to stick with Fuji's lenses. :(

Spyro

03-26-2012, 19:38

No I didnt actually... but I'm about to find out, just picked up my XP1 and the adaptor is in the mail.

digitalintrigue

03-26-2012, 19:43

After using the camera I would need the 35 and I'd be happy.

semilog

03-26-2012, 19:59

Have you checked out the M lenses test before the image were taken down due to bandwidth problem?

http://picabroad.com/2012/03/24/fuji-x-pro-1-grand-test-with-leica-m-mount-lenses/

Both Leica's 28 and 35 show corner smearing, so you might want to stick with Fuji's lenses. :(

Didn't you read the other RFF thread? Image quality doesn't matter. If there was an interchangeable-lens digital Diana, that would be the camera to have. Ask Juan.

aleksanderpolo

03-26-2012, 21:06

Didn't you read the other RFF thread? Image quality doesn't matter. If there was an interchangeable-lens digital Diana, that would be the camera to have. Ask Juan.

LOL

Well we are about to find out how the 28/3.5 performs on it, best wishes :)

rxmd

03-26-2012, 21:24

Rumored lens roadmap:

(To supplement the 18mm F2.0, 35mm F1.4 and 60mm F2.4 Macro already announced)

2012:

14mm f/2.8
18-72mm f/4.0 with Image Stabilization
2013:

28mm f/2.8 pancake
23mm f/2.0
72-200mm f/4.0 Image Stabilization
12-24mm f/4.0 Image Stabilization

I'd take the 14 and the 12-24, but I'm interested in how they deal with the viewfinder issue for those wideangles.

Luke_Y

03-27-2012, 03:40

I've been trying to decide if I should just get the 35 & 60 now, skip the 18, and wait for the 14. Just don't know when the 14 will actually drop or if it will be better than the 18 WRT edge performance.

Later I would pick up the 23 and 72-200 when available.

If it will be late 2012 for the 14 (and it probably will) I cant see going that long without a wide solution. So, will likely end up buying the 18 and selling it at a loss when the 14 is available if it is equal to or better than the 18...

jsrockit

03-27-2012, 04:33

Excited about that Pancake lens... wish they would have released it at launch as a kit.

dcsang

03-27-2012, 05:06

So we gotta wait a year for the "35mm" (i.e. 23mm) - ok.. I guess.. I'd only be interested in that and the 14mm - I'm with Spyro - what's a zoom? *LOL*

I think I'll seriously be selling one of my D700's because of this camera now.. I like it that much...

Cheers,
dave

stormhalvorsen

03-27-2012, 05:23

I suppose the 14mm will come with a separate optical hotshoe viewfinder?

I might get that lens, but as for now I'm happy with only the 35. I may get tempted to pick up the 60, but then I would need to carry a bag after all and if so I may as well carry the D700 instead.

I only want the Xpro over my shoulder with whatever extra fits in my pocket.

jsrockit

03-27-2012, 05:24

I suppose the 14mm will come with a separate optical hotshoe viewfinder?

Maybe, maybe not... they could just make you use the EVF.

back alley

03-27-2012, 05:58

the more i look at the pro-x the more i want the black x100...

Tim Gray

03-27-2012, 06:03

Dave - how's the 18?

dcsang

03-27-2012, 06:12

Tim, not half bad - I posted a bunch on my facebook page - here's a shot using it at ISO 6400 - just to test the "high ISO" of the camera - with standard "0" noise reduction (fyi NR can be turned down two levels to "-2" if necessary):

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7019617131_5ea30a526f_b.jpg

That's from my Flickr - there's another thread on here - for the D700 vs x-Pro1 ISO 3200 where I posted a 100% crop of this photo... take a look see if you're interested - I'll hopefully get out today and fire off some snaps at lunch.

Cheers,
Dave

Tim Gray

03-27-2012, 06:25

Thanks. I saw your other post too. I'll let you go shoot it some more - eager to hear what you think about this lens.

dcsang

03-27-2012, 06:34

Tim.... here's a shot from yesterday - I was testing how this thing handles flare. This was shot without the lens hood just around 12:30pm yesterday - it's pretty clear where the sun is in this photo... I metered Old City Hall (the old clock tower there)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/539747_10150747129920709_675280708_11906218_688725 065_n.jpg

Take a look at the album (granted these are all "web sized" images *sigh*) on my Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150745603735709.463731.675280708&type=3&l=3e05b86d15

Cheers,
Dave

Peter Wijninga

03-27-2012, 06:50

the more i look at the pro-x the more i want the black x100... That's what I thought. Got it yesterday.

Rick Waldroup

03-27-2012, 06:51

This camera is so tempting.

Interesting results, Dave.

I see there is no love for zooms by the folks on this thread?;)

back alley

03-27-2012, 07:08

That's what I thought. Got it yesterday.

good for you!
i'm jealous...

boomguy57

03-27-2012, 07:20

I'm waiting for the X-Pro 2...my guess is that the XP1 is optimized for the three lenses at launch, and that Fuji would have to shoe-horn in other focal lengths (since external VFs make no sense here). My guess is that the XP2 will have some of the issues worked out, and a more mature system is generally better.

Is the consensus that Fuji is not going to go full-frame? Does anyone know if the current 3 primes Fuji is selling would work on a FF sensor, or is it similar to the Nikon DX/FX conundrum? If they were able to be used on a FF sensor, that would excite me; it would indicate that Fuji is at least hedging their bets on a larger sensor for their next offering.

Does a 23/2 lens for the XP system mean the X100 will go the way of the Dodo? I'm keeping my X100 until it dies. I love that camera.

willie_901

03-27-2012, 07:25

This camera is so tempting.

Interesting results, Dave.

I see there is no love for zooms by the folks on this thread?;)

No love here for zooms. I will never use one for non- paying work. They are too big and heavy.

RealXenuis

03-27-2012, 07:29

I bought the Kipon and used it with my CV 15mm II and was not impressed with how the lens performed. In some conditions, focused near, it was really sharp, nice color, but get it out in the sun and focused at infinity and it was inconsistent at best. Decided to buy the Fuji 18 and 60, then cross the 14, 12-24, etc etc bridges when I come to them.

Initially I thought the 18 was pretty bad (and I think it was in pre-prod), but now I think it's looking pretty good.

Yeah there does seem to be some zoom-hate around here. Perhaps few have tried Nikon (mount) zooms...

PhotoMat

03-27-2012, 07:39

[QUOTE=dcsang;1842547]Tim, not half bad - I posted a bunch on my facebook page - here's a shot using it at ISO 6400 - just to test the "high ISO" of the camera - with standard "0" noise reduction (fyi NR can be turned down two levels to "-2" if necessary):

Yeah, but does it go to "11"? ;)

Thanks for posting your input, Dave. I just placed my order from Henry's and should have my setup shortly. I had been patiently waiting for my preorder from B&H, but I cancelled because the clock is ticking before I head out to the Southwest (primarily southern Utah) and I was concerned that orders will be delayed due to their Passover holiday closure.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to spending some time in the desert with my 4x5 and Mamiya 7 (loaded with Velvia, of course) and the X-Pro tagging along on its maiden voyage.:)

dcsang

03-27-2012, 07:46

Re: the Kipon adapters

I am hoping (praying maybe?) that the Fuji adapter will be a bit more "strict" with tolerances and that the M lenses will perform a bit differently (especially the "longer" lenses - 50mm lux & 90mm 'cron - both pre-ASPH)

Based on that one post from a few days ago - there was a guy who tested eight m-mount lenses but it was all "brick wall" shooting - most of the images are sharp in the centre and the non-Leica lenses looked "soft" on the corners.

Cheers,
Dave

shadowfox

03-27-2012, 08:23

i liked the 23/35 on the x100.

it doesn't really make any sense to get a pro-x...does it?

Actually if I liked RD1, I'd get the pro-x instead of the x100
IF they didn't drop a 35/2 lens from their line up (that's one of the most adlebrained decision that Fuji could make).

back alley

03-27-2012, 08:41

Actually if I liked RD1, I'd get the pro-x instead of the x100
IF they didn't drop a 35/2 lens from their line up (that's one of the most adlebrained decision that Fuji could make).

you're talking about replacing an rd1 for the fuji pro?

i'm thinking about using both.

actually, at this point i have thunk myself into complete inaction...

jsrockit

03-27-2012, 09:38

actually, at this point i have thunk myself into complete inaction...

Might be a smart move in the short term. No need to rush if you have good equipment already.

robert blu

03-27-2012, 09:47

This camera is tempting (not yet had one in my hands). I guess other interesting cameras will arrive around Photokina time. I have to say that I'm ...confused ! Stand by for me, now..
robert

Luke_Y

03-27-2012, 09:51

I suppose the 14mm will come with a separate optical hotshoe viewfinder?

...

Maybe, maybe not... they could just make you use the EVF.

I'm waiting for the X-Pro 2...my guess is that the XP1 is optimized for the three lenses at launch, and that Fuji would have to shoe-horn in other focal lengths (since external VFs make no sense here). My guess is that the XP2 will have some of the issues worked out, and a more mature system is generally better. ...

Hmmm. OK, I have/had it in my mind that the 14mm would work with the optical VF... But, in searching around for info just now all I came up with was THIS (http://www.photographyblog.com/news/live_fujifilm_ces_press_conference/)post/tweet from Mark Goldstein @ CES Jan 9th during the Fuji Press Conference.

12.35 CET 14mm is the widest (http://www.photographyblog.com/news/live_fujifilm_ces_press_conference/#) lens currently planned, it will work with the optical viewfinder.

jsrockit

03-27-2012, 10:53

Nice work Luke... that's good to know. So, a 21mm equiv with optical VF. Only the CV r4a/m offers this otherwise.

Luke_Y

03-27-2012, 13:36

I certainly hope it's accurate as I would prefer the 14 to the 18 assuming that it is equal to or better than the 18 in technical performance.

But, not at the cost of the OVF. I can live with it if the bright frame were basically at the edges of the OVF, even if some of the other info had to be moved inside the bright frame, and all that was lost was the greater than 100% field of view. Or, the bright frame went away for the 14 and we had basically a 100% viewfinder...

emraphoto

03-27-2012, 13:47

Didn't you read the other RFF thread? Image quality doesn't matter. If there was an interchangeable-lens digital Diana, that would be the camera to have. Ask Juan.

I'd buy a digital Diana in a heart beat!

Rick Waldroup

03-27-2012, 14:26

I'd buy a digital Diana in a heart beat!

So would I.:cool:

I did buy one of those little 25mm Holga lens for m4/3 cameras and it is really cool to play around with.

dfoo

03-27-2012, 15:29

I found the local Henry's has one + 35mm in stock. I'm seriously considering picking it up. I wish, however, a 35mm equivalent lens was already available. A 21, 35 and 50 and I'm good to go.

dfoo

03-28-2012, 16:19

I broke down and picked one up today with the 35mm lens. I've been busy at work so haven't had a chance to take any pictures yet other than my wife. I've just read over the manual and am looking forward to taking a few shots tomorrow :) Now, when is LR supported?

kbg32

03-28-2012, 16:37