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Agreed, agreed! DSLRs are the best bang for the buck unless your photography revolves almost entirely around pursuits in which SLRs are not at the tope of their game i.e. street/candid docu. For more general endeavours the DSLR sweeps all before, or for handheld portrait work. This is why for some time I have combined a Leica M and wides with a Canon SLR and fast 85mm! Its biological division of labour!
Agreed. ... DSLRs are the king of bang for the buck.
Focal Plane Circus
02-01-2012, 08:12
First X-Pro1 body listed on ebay today:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/...true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_3766wt_1159
The games begin ... :rolleyes:
filmtwit
02-01-2012, 08:16
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First X-Pro1 body listed on ebay today:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/...true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_3766wt_1159
The games begin ... :rolleyes:
digitalintrigue
02-01-2012, 08:18
Here is the link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/250986359119), it's just a pre-order for $1000 additional. And no lens listing...heh.
Having seen the new Pentax "Destro" mirrorless, I return to this thread contrite. No matter what limitations the X-1 Pro may or may not have, it does not remind me a chrome-faced s-s-s-s-supervillian's chrome-faced and black-clad sidekick. And that's half the battle...
fearofhummingbird
02-01-2012, 16:11
Having seen the new Pentax "Destro" mirrorless, I return to this thread contrite. No matter what limitations the X-1 Pro may or may not have, it does not remind me a chrome-faced s-s-s-s-supervillian's chrome-faced and black-clad sidekick. And that's half the battle...
Heh. That Pentax is sad. I'm quite surprised actually.
I carry a camera everywhere. To enjoy it, it has to work well obviously, but I also have to bond with it somehow - and form factor is an important part of that process. I need to actually like it.
I'm not into homely cameras.
Oh - maybe the yellow one? lol
Focal Plane Circus
02-01-2012, 16:30
Another Fuji Guys private YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bz3pGxChF8&feature=youtu.be
I hope this link works. ;)
f6andBthere
02-01-2012, 16:33
I can deal with all the consumer stuff we do ... except those damned unboxing videos!
They're creepy ... made all the more creepy by the fact that thousands will look at them. :p
I can deal with all the consumer stuff we do ... except those damned unboxing videos!
They're creepy ... made all the more creepy by the fact that thousands will look at them. :p
A guilty pleasure of mine.
Actually i'm not even guilty about it. Love opening new things, especially when they're well packaged - like apple stuff.
f6andBthere
02-01-2012, 21:46
A guilty pleasure of mine.
Actually i'm not even guilty about it. Love opening new things, especially when they're well packaged - like apple stuff.
So do I ... but I have no desire to video the process and upload it to youtube. That's a little too OCD for me! :o :D
Chriscrawfordphoto
02-01-2012, 21:56
So do I ... but I have no desire to video the process and upload it to youtube. That's a little too OCD for me! :o :D
People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.
In his autobiography, Ansel Adams related his experience meeting Alfred Stieglitz for the first time. Adams had in hand a letter of introduction from a wealthy woman in San Francisco (where Adams grew up) who was related to someone in Stieglitz's family. The great man threw the letter in the trash and told Adams that "All that woman has is money, and if this depression continues,she won't even have that!" Fortunately, he didn't hold it against Adams. Makes me think of these people who think anyone gives a damn what they just bought. They have money and little else.
People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.
In his autobiography, Ansel Adams related his experience meeting Alfred Stieglitz for the first time. Adams had in hand a letter of introduction from a wealthy woman in San Francisco (where Adams grew up) who was related to someone in Stieglitz's family. The great man threw the letter in the trash and told Adams that "All that woman has is money, and if this depression continues,she won't even have that!" Fortunately, he didn't hold it against Adams. Makes me think of these people who think anyone gives a damn what they just bought. They have money and little else.
I dunno, I think it's just sharing in gear fetishism. I'm always interested in design, including packaging, so I'm always interested in unboxing videos.
That's just me though, I couldn't actually be bothered to make an unboxing video...
emraphoto
02-01-2012, 22:33
fuji should hand those cameras over to photographers instead of the 'fuji guys'
Makes me think of these people who think anyone gives a damn what they just bought. They have money and little else.
That's a dangerous thing to say on a heavily GAS driven from.
Probably there are people who need assistance unboxing their new toy? Some people just can't realize all those latches and foldings. Once they open a box farther is easier - cameras have instruction manuals.
People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.
It's probably not a good idea to make blanket, judgmental statements.
crispy12
02-02-2012, 03:31
It's probably not a good idea to make blanket, judgmental statements.
My thoughts exactly.
I love a well packaged product. I've been looking at M8 unboxing videos recently as I'm getting one really soon, it's exciting to see what I'll be getting (even though I could probably guess 95% of it anyway)
jsrockit
02-02-2012, 04:24
I don't know... I think someone on this thread is taking unboxing videos way too seriously.
Focal Plane Circus
02-02-2012, 04:54
I can deal with all the consumer stuff we do ... except those damned unboxing videos!
They're creepy ... made all the more creepy by the fact that thousands will look at them. :p
Billy Leung answered a similar complaint on the Fuji Guys Twitter page this way: "lol. But the funny thing is that unboxing videos get the most views, go figure :-)"
emraphoto said: "fuji should hand those cameras over to photographers instead of the 'fuji guys'"
Look up Hugo Poon, Jacek Heliasz, and Christian Fletcher, to name a few. Also "Fuji Guy" Billy Leung. I've seen excellent photos by him displayed in Fuji a show booth.
I'm not a Billy fanboy, but the guy isn't the clown some think he is. :p
People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.
They have money and little else.
Still, it's nice to have something to make us feel superior, eh?
f6andBthere
02-02-2012, 05:29
Still, it's nice to have something to make us feel superior, eh?
You're wicked Paul! :p
digitalintrigue
02-02-2012, 05:57
The class warfare meme is old and tired, Chris.
digitalintrigue
02-02-2012, 05:58
http://www.flickr.com/photos/christianfletcher/sets/72157629139713027/show/
Christian Fletcher -
"just posted some more images from the x-pro1 on my flickr page check it out. All images are straight out of the camera."
"people on dpreview need to go easy on the insults, new images to come, we have had more time to shoot with it and the x-pro 1 is a brilliant little camera. Those who comment wanting a little more bang for their bucks should look at buying a Phase One, if that is out of the budget might I suggest the x100 or the x-pro1. I have images hanging in my galleries shot with the x100 sitting along side images from my 5D2 and my Phase and at 20x30inch you almost can't pick them. Now the x-pro1 is better again so I have total confidence that the prints will be amazing. Get out from behind your screens and take some photos, isn't that what it is all about?"
dazedgonebye
02-02-2012, 06:10
People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar Chris.
Not every action merits analysis, much less so much disdain.
jsrockit
02-02-2012, 06:18
... "Get out from behind your screens and take some photos, isn't that what it is all about?"
I'm not sure... do we all photograph 24/7 without a break?
Focal Plane Circus
02-02-2012, 06:49
http://www.flickr.com/photos/christianfletcher/sets/72157629139713027/show/
Christian Fletcher -
"just posted some more images from the x-pro1 on my flickr page check it out. All images are straight out of the camera."
More fine images. Still more to come, I think.
"people on dpreview need to go easy on the insults, new images to come, we have had more time to shoot with it and the x-pro 1 is a brilliant little camera. Those who comment wanting a little more bang for their bucks should look at buying a Phase One, if that is out of the budget might I suggest the x100 or the x-pro1. I have images hanging in my galleries shot with the x100 sitting along side images from my 5D2 and my Phase and at 20x30inch you almost can't pick them. Now the x-pro1 is better again so I have total confidence that the prints will be amazing. Get out from behind your screens and take some photos, isn't that what it is all about?"
Amen.
Interesting to note the x-pro1 is number 1 on the Amazon pre-ordered mirrorless cameras list at the moment.
I don't know why people get so excited about the x-pro1. If you take crappy pictures, it doesn't matter what you use. Plus, there are plenty of great cameras out there for less money.
chris00nj
02-02-2012, 13:20
X-Pro 1 will be available at the end of February. Link (http://www.twice.com/article/480045-Fujifilm_Releases_X_Pro1_Pricing.php)
tbarker13
02-02-2012, 14:57
The class warfare meme is old and tired, Chris.
So very true...
Goodness, that's quite a tower you are in.
Please post examples of your photographs with a list of all the equipment you own.
Cheers.
I don't know why people get so excited about the x-pro1. If you take crappy pictures, it doesn't matter what you use. Plus, there are plenty of great cameras out there for less money.
EthanFrank
02-02-2012, 19:06
Glad to see this X-Pro1 puts everyone in such a cheery mood...
Glad to see this X-Pro1 puts everyone in such a cheery mood...
Well what's YOUR angle? :D
EthanFrank
02-02-2012, 19:48
Well what's YOUR angle? :D
I'm curious. I have a NEX7 on preorder and its delay has made me consider the X-Pro1 as an alternative. I want to know about the M-mount adapter, possible aftermarket adapters (OM please! But unlikely), how it will handle manual focusing, etc, as well as a better idea of what to expect from the viewfinder, how the viewfinder will handle non-Fuji lenses, etc before I make any sort of decision.
My point was just that there is a heck of a lot of hostility given no one knows much about the camera.
I'm curious. I have a NEX7 on preorder and its delay has made me consider the X-Pro1 as an alternative. I want to know about the M-mount adapter, possible aftermarket adapters (OM please! But unlikely), how it will handle manual focusing, etc, as well as a better idea of what to expect from the viewfinder, how the viewfinder will handle non-Fuji lenses, etc before I make any sort of decision.
My point was just that there is a heck of a lot of hostility given no one knows much about the camera.
I think it's precisely BECAUSE no one knows much that people get hostile, after all there's nothing else left to discuss except each other.
EthanFrank
02-02-2012, 19:55
I think it's precisely BECAUSE no one knows much that people get hostile, after all there's nothing else left to discuss except each other.
Likely. I don't see much of a point in it, though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/christianfletcher/sets/72157629139713027/show/
Christian Fletcher -
"just posted some more images from the x-pro1 on my flickr page check it out. All images are straight out of the camera."
Nice to see this set of photos, especially as they are typical of the country I love to visit and photograph in. The colour palette is more subtle and subdued than people in the northern hemisphere are generally familiar with as subject for landscape photography, and folks should take that into account when judging these as samples of the output from the camera.
celluloidprop
02-02-2012, 20:10
Can't tell if the XP1 engenders more or less hostility than the OM-D. The XP1 costs more, but the OM-D dares besmirch the name of a camera that hasn't been produced in a decade.
Can't tell if the XP1 engenders more or less hostility than the OM-D. The XP1 costs more, but the OM-D dares besmirch the name of a camera that hasn't been produced in a decade.
Call it the digital equivalent of the OM-2000 and you'll see from the crowd what true hostility is :)
35mmdelux
02-02-2012, 21:06
People don't do those unboxing videos because they're OCD. They do it to brag about what they have. It is crass and low-class.
In his autobiography, Ansel Adams related his experience meeting Alfred Stieglitz for the first time. Adams had in hand a letter of introduction from a wealthy woman in San Francisco (where Adams grew up) who was related to someone in Stieglitz's family. The great man threw the letter in the trash and told Adams that "All that woman has is money, and if this depression continues,she won't even have that!" Fortunately, he didn't hold it against Adams. Makes me think of these people who think anyone gives a damn what they just bought. They have money and little else.
"Fortunately, he didn't hold it against Adams."
My understanding was that Adams never forgot that snub. And if Stieglitz held it against Adams it didn't matter since Adams was a prominent photographer in his own right. Today millions of people can identify an Adams photograph but not Stieglitz,' except for the photo-philes or historians.
BTW I don't have a moment for the open your box videos. First time I heard of 'em.
jsrockit
02-03-2012, 04:09
I don't know why people get so excited about the x-pro1. If you take crappy pictures, it doesn't matter what you use. Plus, there are plenty of great cameras out there for less money.
Hmmm, why don't you think about something that gets you excited in life and then think about how you feel during that excitement. Then say to yourself (as you have your epiphany), wow, I get it... people can get excited about something I don't particularly like... :rolleyes:
Hmmm, why don't you think about something that gets you excited in life and then think about how you feel during that excitement. Then say to yourself (as you have your epiphany), wow, I get it... people can get excited about something I don't particularly like... :rolleyes:
Hahahaha :p
Ι like fuji packaging, very safe and solid
helped heaps when I sent my x100 back to Fuji twice in 10 months since I bought it :P
Focal Plane Circus
02-03-2012, 07:08
There's a lively discussion on the Pentax Forums on how the X-Pro1 compares with the new Pentax K-01 "Tonka Toy" and the Olympus OM-D (or E-M5?) -- 93 posts and counting since yesterday.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173877-pentax-k-01-vs-fuji-x-pro-1-vs-olympus-om-d.html
Many of these Pentax fanboys sound like Fuji fans. :D
There's a lively discussion on the Pentax Forums on how the X-Pro1 compares with the new Pentax K-01 "Tonka Toy" and the Olympus OM-D (or E-M5?) -- 93 posts and counting since yesterday.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173877-pentax-k-01-vs-fuji-x-pro-1-vs-olympus-om-d.html
Many of these Pentax fanboys sound like Fuji fans. :D
From the couple pages I looked at, they were discussing Pentax in sorrow more than anger. But they seem to have missed the point that the reason the X100 and other EVF cameras have done well, and the same applies to the XPro and Digital OM, is that they have a bloody viewfinder! So the K-01, for all its new aesthetics, is taking us back in time.
seanathan
02-03-2012, 07:54
Many of these Pentax fanboys sound like Fuji fans. :D
I'm somewhat of a pentax fanboy myself (at least some of their old slrs and affordable lenses), and I can say I'm much more excited to see what the x-pro1 can do than pentax's latest abomination. ;)
RealXenuis
02-03-2012, 17:47
I came (sort of) from Pentax as well, and though I get the utility of it, it's got to go down as one of the more backward moves by a camera co. in the recent history. I identified with the efficiency of their products, and while I get this one (yay it takes most their lenses yay) I think it was a mistake. There's something like desperation in their commitment to differentiate to the degree they have with the K-01. They really didn't do a whole lot with it. Same (yet good) sensor used by others. Compatibility with most of their lenses ever made. No mirror. But really, it's just a reconfigured, run of the mill camera, isn't it? Anything "new" in it? Anything compellingly different in function or usability? It feels more like a "special edition" model than a new one. It's so fugly, it feels like an anachronism, like, in fifteen years we'll all look back and go "oh, yeah I get it! that's so cool!". Only, no. No we won't. Pentax has been Ricohfigured.
RFluhver
02-04-2012, 00:59
Popped into Fujifilm Square in Tokyo today and played with this thing. My God. I mean, hail the high heavens. It's a friggin' gorgeous thing. Nice body, wonderful VF and that 35/1.4 lens were just incredible! But the focus...mmmmm...I dunno...a bit slow, mainly because the captured image just momentarily flashes for just a wee bit of a fraction of a second or so before the camera is ready to fire again. Other than that, it's a bloody beauty of a camera.
How large is the viewfinder compared to a M-mount camera? Bessa class? Ikon class?
I've only toyed briefly with an X100 and was sorely disappointed with the viewfinder, hopefully the VF on the Xp1 is better.
How large is the viewfinder compared to a M-mount camera? Bessa class? Ikon class?
I've only toyed briefly with an X100 and was sorely disappointed with the viewfinder, hopefully the VF on the Xp1 is better.
Really? I'd rate the x100 viewfinder really highly - it's pretty big... Probably not that far off a .72 leica one - I think the it may actually be bigger compared to the .72 35mm frame...
To me the X100 finder was more similar to the Canon G series camera viewfinders. Maybe I have to take another look at it and have my Bessa with me to compare.
jsrockit
02-04-2012, 03:43
To me the X100 finder was more similar to the Canon G series camera viewfinders. Maybe I have to take another look at it and have my Bessa with me to compare.
I think you may be confused with the Fuji X10, not X100.
paulfish4570
02-04-2012, 04:27
i have a bessa r2m and x100. both have huge bright viewfinders. little difference to me. the g-series finder is like looking through a button hole in comparison ...
I think you may be confused with the Fuji X10, not X100.
Yep... big difference...
j.scooter
02-04-2012, 04:39
But the focus...mmmmm...I dunno...a bit slow, mainly because the captured image just momentarily flashes for just a wee bit of a fraction of a second or so before the camera is ready to fire again. Other than that, it's a bloody beauty of a camera.
I noticed that in the the youtube videos as well. I wonder if there is a menu setting to turn auto preview off and will that help focusing?
I think you may be confused with the Fuji X10, not X100.
No, I'm not that confused, although I did try the X10 also.
jsrockit
02-04-2012, 18:48
No, I'm not that confused, although I did try the X10 also.
Then I don't know what happened since the X100's VF is nothing like the G series Canon. :eek:
I'm used to Leica Ms and the X100 finder is pretty darned good... Bright, clear, open...
I suspect the X Pro finder is identical.
digitalintrigue
02-09-2012, 06:02
First pics of the M adapter on the Fuji-xforum (http://www.x100forum.com/index.php?/topic/3585-x-pro-1-with-m-mount-adapter-cp/)
PrecisionCamera
02-09-2012, 06:26
First pics of the M adapter on the Fuji-xforum (http://www.x100forum.com/index.php?/topic/3585-x-pro-1-with-m-mount-adapter-cp/)
Drool. I've been trying to resist handing over all my cash and equipment for this camera, but this just made it impossible!
Careful, folks...
The M adapter shown on the pictures may not have a cam follower which would be required to detect the lens's current focus distance. Without that information, the camera's optical viewfinder would not be able to move the bright-frame for parallax compensation. Also, the camera would not be able to calculate the in-viewfinder DoF display.
Frankie (which is active both here and on the Fuji-X forum) has provided more insights on the issue. See the referenced thread in the Fuji-X forum.
Should Fuji not make such an intelligent M adapter, Frankie might.
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