Print Size Poll

[rover]

Ok, let's make it a 3 poll day.

I often order double prints in 4x6 size as requests for copies from grandparents and the like are made for Sammy shots. Recently, for things I shot for myself, really the same thing I guess, I have been ordering single copies of 5x7, for just a little more $ than the doubled 4x6. I like the look of the larger print.

Just interested, what size prints do you order when you process print film?

[back alley]

i've just been having the film developed and scanned, no prints.

[digitalox]

Same here, whether i develop them at home or in the lab, I scan all of mine now and rarely make prints, never when I order them anymore. Unless its a special occasion like a vacation or something.

[Marc Jutras]

I get 4x6 prints when I need them. When I don't, I simply get the film processed and scanned by the lab.

As I'm typing this, I'm waiting for a roll of BW400CN to be processed, scanned and printed at the good lab around the corner. I'll post whatever is worth it. ;)

[Wayne R. Scott]

When I get color film developed I normally have it scanned to CD.

Black & White that I develop myself I print a contact sheet size 8x10. From this if there are any that i like I may print 8x10, 11x14 or 16x20.

Wayne

[Doug]

Wow, it seems a lot of us just have the roll developed and scanned to CD, no prints. Same for me, so I guess I have to answer "none of the above".

[back alley]

i put down 'other'

[rovnguy]

I just have my film developed (color-C41) or soup the B&W myself and then I scan the negatives. If it looks good on the scan, I'll print it myself. I'm replenishing my fund for purchasing more goodies right now, so my next purchase will be either an enlarger or an M3.

[Rich Silfver]

"Negatives and contact sheet only please"

[back alley]

so for those of you doing the neg & contact sheet thing, i'm assuming that you're doing your own scanning?

[Rich Silfver]

Yup.

[back alley]

that will be me soon!

[Rich Silfver]

Do yourself a favour and get a film scanner...even the crappiest film scanner is going to outperform the best flatbedscanner with transparency adapter. I hate my Epson 3200.

[back alley]

you may hate it but your stuff looks great!

you really have a remarkable talent.

as for my scanning, i will be getting a film scanner soon. due to the efforts of a fellow forum member i am getting a used nikon scanner for the price of shipping.
i look forward to many frustrating evenings trying to figure it out.
in preparation i have spent part of my holiday time being frustrated by attempting to learn how to use my photoshop 7.
i really need to take a course.

joe

[RML]

Negatives only.

Having them put on cd at the same time will cost me 10 euros extra. Having them put on cd later will cost me at least 1 euro per neg, with a minimum of 20 and a maximum of about 100. AND I have to pay for a cd as well.

Any Dutchies here know of a cheaper place than Hema where I can have my negs developed and put on cd cheaply?

[JohnM]

Generally, a contact sheet and negatives. If there's something I really like a lot, I'll have a print made.

In Westchester, they ask a fortune to scan the negs to CD - I have yet to find a shop that does it for a reasonable fee. There is a pro camera shop in Bronxville, NY that does nice work and they're close, but their scanning fee would make you queasy.

I scan the negatives myself when time allows which is not very often. I tend to make a lot of 4x6's off of the scans or from digi pics using a Canon inkjet.

With the world's cutest nine month old and sets of doting grandparents, aunts, uncles and even a great-grandmother clammoring for pictures, I can go through two or three 30-sheet pack of Ilford Gallerie Pearl paper in a matter of a week or so.

[24x30]

who can guess my favorite paper size ;-) ? I print 80% this size in my (improvised) darkroom. The Rest is 30x40 and some really small paper (13x18 :-). No contact sheets (too much work).

/rudi

[Doug]

Rudi, what do you do with your large prints? Frame and exibit them? Causes a storage problem? :-)

[Pherdinand]

RML, right now Camex has an offer to put the images on a CD for free, but only if you order 4x6 prints with the development... And only from colour 135mm negative.

[P C Headland]

Dutchies here know of a cheaper place than Hema where I can have my negs developed and put on cd cheaply?

I think that Albert Hein's service does it for cheaper if you get the scans done with development (at least here in Amsterdam). Not much cheaper, but a bit. I wasn't too happy with their printing though, which is what caused me to lose faith in (35MM) film (so I went digital until I discovered the wonderful world of MF folders.....)

But generally, the prices for scanning are silly. Especially when they have to scan them to print them anyway. But then most things are quite expensive here... I think it would probably work out better to get either a s/h film scanner, or something new like a DualScan IV.

For the MF stuff, it's develop only for all film, B+W, colour neg and slide (!), and scan on a flatbed. Up to A4 I'll print at home, bigger or better quality I'll have done by a proper camera/photo shop.

[RML]

PC, Pherdinand, thanks for the response.

The whole point IMO of a cd would be that I don't need to get no blinkin' prints. :) I really don't understand why I have to get prints as well. Online prints are quite cheap (Kruidvat is nearby and gives decent results) so if I need prints I'll get them that way. I would have thoughtat least here in Amsterdam there would be a place that offers cheap scans on cd but so far I haven't found any.

I scan all my negs on my SD3 but it takes tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime. I'm now about 40-50 rolls behind.
Really, for me a digital RF would be the solution for my film bill, development bill, and scanning load.

[24x30]

Originally posted by Doug
Rudi, what do you do with your large prints? Frame and exibit them? Causes a storage problem? :-)

It's not really a problem. The output of a darkroom session is not so big (2 or 3 regular prints, 5 or 6 lith prints). After a few days reviewing them :) there is a really small number of prints left which is worth to be put on a wall.

The bigger problem is, that there are 2 kids which costs a lot of time. So there is (in common) just one session every 2 weeks.

For an exhibition my prints are not good enough. I have to do exercises for a few more years (maybe 20 or 30 of them ;-).

/rudi

[Brian Sweeney]

I usually get 5x7 singles then scan the negatives myself. At under $4 for a roll of 24 C-41 Kodak processing at BJ's, the price is hard to beat.

[rover]

That is what I do Brian. I am still attached to the idea of having that print in my hand. Most of the time the prints are better than the results I get from scanning and playing with PS, so they serve as a benchmark for me.

[back alley]

let's compare prices,
i pay-

4.48 to dev film
5.98 to scan
1.98 for the cd

that's in cdn dollars

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and also - this is xp2/ c41 film and 'consumer' quality scans - double that for 'pro' quality

[rover]

In Canadian $ you win. Well, I use York because I am cheap.
Roll of 24, 4x6, single prints
Dev. and Print, $3.55
Photos on CD, $4.95 (poor quality)

Double prints, 4x6, $5.50
5x7 Single, $6.55

I find the 5x7 print quality is decent. Probably better becasue they don't just throw it through the machine, they have to change the size setting, so perhaps they pay more attention to the whole process.

[Pherdinand]

ugh, that's cheap! Here in the netherlands i pay approx. eur15(!) if i want development plus 4x6 prints of a 36 exp. roll... ok, one fresh film included. At the moment, i can ask for a second set of prints or a CD with scans, for free.
Development only would cost me eur3,50 i think.

The bigger problem is, the same thing for trad. BW would be eur25. :(:(:(

There are somewhat cheaper places tho', but the folks at the shop/lab know me already, and they give the best quality i've found so far.

[rover]

Traditional B&W is more expensive due to the higher cost of the paper. For a roll of 24 with one 4x6 print I am looking in the $15 to $18 range. I don't know what the cost is to have the film developed and just print a contact sheep, but much less I am sure.

[That Guy]

Single set of 4x6 matte. A CD is an extra $6 at time of processing or $7 for just the CD. I always look forward to picking up my prints at the shop and sitting down at home with my wife to look them over. I'm still trying to decide on a B&W film and she likes to "critique" my work. :rolleyes:

[GeneW]

For colour I'm in the develop only and scan to CD camp. I also request the lab to leave the negs uncut. I like strips of 6 for my filing system and my scanner so I prefer to do the cutting myself.

I do my own B&W then scan the entire roll as 8-bit jpegs and 16-bit TIFFs simultaneously (using VueScan). and use Photoshop to create a digital contact sheet from the JPGs. After working up some of the better frames, I then delete all the large TIFFs and keep the relatively small JPGs online for reference.

When I want 4x6" prints, I usually touch them up in Photoshop then upload them to an online printing service. I get better prints that way.

Gene

[jdos2]

For 135 C-41: I go to Dodd (the local bulk semi-pro shop) and get development and 36 4x6 glossy prints for about $11.

For 135 B&W I just do it myself. About $.50/roll, or there-bouts.
(anyone _LOAD_ their own? Next project, perhaps)

For 120/220 I go right around the corner to Pro Color and C-41 runs $2 or $4 (with a $2 premium on push/pull!) for development which isn't bad at all and get 4x5/4x6/5x5 glossy prints for $.55 each; again, that's not bad.