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back alley
06-29-2011, 13:19
on a mac
using adobe photoshop elements 8
is there an upgrade/plug in that will process my x100 raw files
thanks,
totally confused by adobe website...
http://download.cnet.com/Adobe-Camera-Raw/3000-2192_4-35429.html
back alley
06-29-2011, 13:27
i thought that i had read this version was not for pse8...
Don't know. I assume its latest so will work for everything as far back as compatibility will allow.
back alley
06-29-2011, 13:50
not working for me...
did it install ? If so try converting the folder the raw files are in (not individual files) to DNG format files and then open those.
Have you tried uninstalling and then re-installing PSE8 followed by the 6.4.1 raw update? Worth a try.
back alley
06-29-2011, 14:40
6.4.1. will not install
6.4 did install but my raw files still will not open.
back alley
06-29-2011, 14:43
Have you tried uninstalling and then re-installing PSE8 followed by the 6.4.1 raw update? Worth a try.
no...i hate not knowing this stuff.
doesn't sound good. I don't know why it won't install.
If 6.4 is supposed to have the x100 raw file converter, then install 6.4 and then try to convert the folder that the raw files are in to a dng format folder. If that works then open the dng files in that folder. If it doesn't work then I don't know.
back alley
06-29-2011, 14:47
doesn't sound good. I don't know why it won't install.
If 6.4 is supposed to have the x100 raw file converter, then install 6.4 and then try to convert the folder that the raw files are in to a dng format folder. If that works then open the dng files in that folder. If it doesn't work then I don't know.
how do i convert a folder...never did that b4.
before we try that can you look for a folder where your 6.4 ACR software is which contains files with a .dcp extension. In that folder is there an x100 file? If not I have extracted one from latest ACR download for mac and will need to send it to you to put in that folder. This may be wishful thinking on my part but without that file it ain't going to work in 6.4.
If you have some unzip software you may be able to extract the file yourself. Its buried several layers into that 6.4.1 downlaod file. I use 7-zip on windows. I don't know on a MAC.
If you can't do it PM me your email and I'll send it.
filename you are looking for is:
Fujifilm FinePix X100 Adobe Standard.dcp
back alley
06-29-2011, 15:22
before we try that can you look for a folder where your 6.4 ACR software is which contains files with a .dcp extension. In that folder is there an x100 file? If not I have extracted one from latest ACR download for mac and will need to send it to you to put in that folder. This may be wishful thinking on my part but without that file it ain't going to work in 6.4.
If you have some unzip software you may be able to extract the file yourself. Its buried several layers into that 6.4.1 downlaod file. I use 7-zip on windows. I don't know on a MAC.
If you can't do it PM me your email and I'll send it.
filename you are looking for is:
Fujifilm FinePix X100 Adobe Standard.dcp
found the dcp file...not sure how to proceed...no unzip file found
if that file is already installed on your system then opening the x100 raw files should be working.
Assuming that file is already installed, then use the dng converter to convert to DNG format,
I think what you need to do is start the DNG converter and somewhere use Select Source Folder and select the folder your raw files are in (don't think you will see any files but you know they are there) then return to dng converter main dialog and set any other parameters and do the convert. See what you get
If that doesn't work then I'm stumped on this one.
In the meantime Joe just use Silky Pix to convert the files to tiffs ... I can't afford any new software currently and it seems one way out.
If nothing else Silky Pix seems capable of this! :p
I still can't comprehend how bad Fuji's raw processing software is ... absolute rubbish!
I know this is the blind leading the blind but I think you need DNG Converter 6.4 which has support for x100 files
back alley
06-29-2011, 16:06
I know this is the blind leading the blind but I think you need DNG Converter 6.4 which has support for x100 files
got it
found it
opened the files...slow as molasses
still cannot open raw files with bridge.
totally frustrated atm...gonna shoot jpg as i get to know the camera, for now, and will return to the quest later on.
many thanks for the help.
Hi Joe -
I just checked on my Mac. I can't open the RAF files in PSE9 or PSE8. I can in Aperture and Lightroom. I had always assumed that when installing the updated ACR files it handled PSE too. Not true this past time. Not a big deal for me since I very seldom use PSE anymore. I'm sorry if this is not of any help to you though.
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Craig
OK but once the files are converted to dng format then you should be able to open dng files direct.
But maybe life would be easier upgrading to pse9
back alley
06-29-2011, 16:24
does pse open x100 raw files? or, and i think i would have to...still download the update?
back alley
06-29-2011, 16:26
Hi Joe -
I just checked on my Mac. I can't open the RAF files in PSE9 or PSE8. I can in Aperture and Lightroom. I had always assumed that when installing the updated ACR files it handled PSE too. Not true this past time. Not a big deal for me since I very seldom use PSE anymore. I'm sorry if this is not of any help to you though.
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Craig
there is a download for pse8 and another for pse9...it's not the same as for lightroom etc.
i would like to try lightroom but it's almost 400 bucks here plus i'm lazy and know what i like to do in pse...what a pain to learn a new system.
does pse open x100 raw files? or, and i think i would have to...still download the update?
Good question. I'm assuming (again) that the latest version will work since ACR is supposed to work with PSE but might be worth asking at adobe pse forum before committing to purchase. And specs say you can edit raw image files but then it says that for PSE8 too. Maybe its just an x100 file format problem.
Joe, have you checked eligibility for Adobe education pricing? If there is a student or teacher in the family...
and you can get the free trial version which is fully functional (so it says) to see if it works first.
back alley
06-29-2011, 16:46
Joe, have you checked eligibility for Adobe education pricing? If there is a student or teacher in the family...
none of the above...just me...
I would have thought that DNG converter is batch converting all the x100 raws files in the folder to DNG format and saving them in one go so that will will take some time. But assuming it saves them all from then on you look at dng files only. But what you are saying is that bridge cannot read adobes own dng format which is very odd.
back alley
06-29-2011, 20:37
i was just reading on another site that the upgrade does not work on pse at all.
if true that means i need to buy lr3 or cs5...
i was just reading on another site that the upgrade does not work on pse at all.
if true that means i need to buy lr3 or cs5...
Oh that's a bugger. But if you are happy to let DNG convert do batch covert all files in a folder then surely you can access dng files without the need for other software.
You can get download only Lightroom 3 (no cds etc) on ebay Canada for $49.
i was just reading on another site that the upgrade does not work on pse at all.
if true that means i need to buy lr3 or cs5...
You shouldn't need the upgrade if you are reading dng files after DNG convert, but if that is too slow for you then yes you'll need better software.
The following states adobes case for dng format.
http://www.phototestcenter.com/html/raw_file_compatibility.html
there is a special version of the camera raw plugine for PSE9
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5106
anyone tried it on a MAC ?
peripatetic
06-30-2011, 01:14
Get Lightroom, you won't regret it.
Or Aperture if you're on a Mac. The Appstore price is very good.
It says right on the Adobe site that the latest RAW version for PSE8 is 6.2 --- http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5107
I see that PSE9 is only $79 after a $20 rebate, it would save you a lot of hassle just to buy it.
I run both Mac and Windows and use my X100 on both. I hope I'm not wrong and don't want to add to the confusion, but my eperience was:
In Mac - (Aperture) it's not the Aperture that needs to update, it's the Mas OS itself. So - Aperture stays the same, update Mas OS; now Aperture likes X100. - I don't know if this holds for PSE (mac)
HOWEVER
Windows - I use Adobe CS4 (Not wanting to buy CS5)
No way for X100 - as ACR 6.4 only wants to talk with CS5.
So in Windows I need to :
a) buy CS5 (no way)
b) (and this is what I do for raw (if I used raw which I don't on Windows))
- must use the stand alone Adobe DNG converter (free) with ACR 6.4
back alley
06-30-2011, 09:31
You can get download only Lightroom 3 (no cds etc) on ebay Canada for $49.
can't find it...
lots of books for low prices but the software is still pricey...
back alley
06-30-2011, 09:32
and you can get the free trial version which is fully functional (so it says) to see if it works first.
i downloaded lightroom last year but never used it...i doubt they would allow a second free trial...
can't find it...
lots of books for low prices but the software is still pricey...
Sorry I should have put GBP. Here it is on uk ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lightroom-3-4-Full-Version-Window-s-Vista-7-XP-Mac-OS-/160610562870?pt=UK_Computing_Services&hash=item256522b336#ht_3054wt_955
back alley
06-30-2011, 09:50
Sorry I should have put GBP. Here it is on uk ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lightroom-3-4-Full-Version-Window-s-Vista-7-XP-Mac-OS-/160610562870?pt=UK_Computing_Services&hash=item256522b336#ht_3054wt_955
thanks...price is in pounds i think...about 75 bucks cdn...still better than the local price.
i downloaded lightroom last year but never used it...i doubt they would allow a second free trial...
i was thinking the trial version of elemets 9
back alley
06-30-2011, 11:48
i was thinking the trial version of elemets 9
ahh...that might be a good idea...
also the following which has support for x100.
http://www.raw-photo-processor.com/RPP/Overview.html
may be able to do a batch convert on a folder of raf files quicker than DNG Converter. You would just have to try it to see.
Those cheap copies on eBay will be illegal copies. No matter how legitimate they make the ads it is 99.999% certain that you might as well have saved your money and illegally downloaded them yourself.
Try Lightroom Joe, I came from using PSE as well. It was not what I was used to, but after a period of learning I would not use anything else. Put in the effort and you'll like it too.
RPP is great, I use it sometimes as it does a better job than Lightroom. I use Lightroom for a quick peak then RPP to do the real conversions. :)
Lightroom is wonderful, you'll get the hang of it in no time.
back alley
06-30-2011, 13:56
i just loaded the trial version of pse9...does not work on x100 raw files or at least i couldn't get it to work.
while i am lazy and prefer not to have to learn a new software package like lightroom...right now the biggest drawback is that it cost about 300 bucks locally.
our postal system is only just getting back to work after a slowdown and they predict a large backlog, so i would prefer not to buy online at the moment.
i just loaded the trial version of pse9...does not work on x100 raw files or at least i couldn't get it to work.
while i am lazy and prefer not to have to learn a new software package like lightroom...right now the biggest drawback is that it cost about 300 bucks locally.
our postal system is only just getting back to work after a slowdown and they predict a large backlog, so i would prefer not to buy online at the moment.
You need that special pse9 acr update from following link:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5106
back alley
06-30-2011, 14:08
it wouldn't load...tried it.
adobe just refuses to let us upgrade...they want new $$ for new products.
it wouldn't load...tried it.
adobe just refuses to let us upgrade...they want new $$ for new products.
maybe because you have another version of 6.4.1 loaded it won't let you install this one.
Seems its a real pain to do something that is should happen straight out of the box.
I think the adobe idea of the common raw format using DNG is a very good one as it would stop all this nonsense but I doubt that nikon and canon will follow it. But if everyone else does then all well and good.
try the RPP converter (link below). It may be quicker than the Adobe DNG Converter(depending on the settings you use). And its FREE.
http://www.raw-photo-processor.com/RPP/Overview.html
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