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CameraQuest
05-16-2011, 13:29
Since we installed Tapatalk,
RFF has been a lot slower.
Today it has been deactivated as a test.
Stephen
nikon_sam
05-16-2011, 13:33
Okay...I'm officially "Old"...what the heck is Tapatalk...???
mabelsound
05-16-2011, 13:40
But...I am posting with it now.
I was beginning to wonder if my browser was causing the problem ... I just installed the lates firefox version and noticed a real slow down. This morning seems back to normal. :)
Much faster now, thanks. :D
bmasonoh
05-16-2011, 14:31
That's unfortunate. It's a wonderful tool for browsing from a mobile device or iPad. Sorry to hear that it's not working out.
mabelsound
05-16-2011, 14:36
It is not deactivated, I'm telling you. Here I am, posting with it!
Hmmmm, I'm using Tapatalk now, as well.
Nikon Bob
05-16-2011, 15:21
Yea, for the past several days RFF has been so slow that connections timed out often. No idea what Tapatalk is but whatever has been done has put RFF back to normal speed wise for me.
Bob
bmasonoh
05-16-2011, 15:48
Hmmm... You're right it is still working. Fingers crossed that it was some other problem slowing things down!
sepiareverb
05-16-2011, 16:22
I couldn't get on anyway the other day, then Tapatalk worked before my 'internet' connection. "Slow" has a very different meaning to those of us in rural Vermont than the rest of you. What I find fast would most likely make anyone else give up.
I never use tapatalk since I have none of those pesky mobile devices--other than a plain Jane cellphone--but RFF seems much faster and more responsive than it has been over the past few days. I'm on a reasonably fast wireless system but I was getting frequent server timeouts when visiting here...
Ah, so that's why I can't access RFF w/ Tapatalk! Unlike some of the others on this thread, deactivating Tapatalk deactivated access from my iTouch. I kinda like RFF on Tapatalk.
Posting this via Tapatalk, working like a charm.
.. I thought it was just me! it's a lot better now, it was taking 5 min to load a page
Roger Hicks
05-17-2011, 00:30
It certainly seems faster today.
Cheers,
R.
Benjamin Marks
05-17-2011, 05:30
I have had several sessions time out or take eons to load. Enjoying the test period, if that is what is speeding things up this morning.
Ben
shadowfox
05-17-2011, 09:23
I'm a gear-head and a code-head, but not a gadget-head.
I like my laptop heavy with hi-res display and broad keyboard.
That's how I do RFF.
None of that namby-pamby Tap-a-what???
:D
Using it now too. See below (the footer from my phone).
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
Yep, I'm accessing rff via tapatalk as well. Please do not remove access via tapatalk.
-Randy
nikon_sam
05-17-2011, 09:58
I still don't really know what Tapatalk is all about but I have noticed that RFF is a bit slower today than it was yesterday...so to all you Tapatalkers...STOP IT!!!
Real slow today...
Hope RFF stays with Tapatalk compatibility, otherwise my $2.95 will have been a waste! ;)
Edit: Everything involving posting is particularly bogged down here today. (for me)
I've been experiencing really slow/not able to load too this past week.
(I think this is my 100 post :p)
SciAggie
05-18-2011, 09:23
In the last several days I have experienced an issue that resembles server overload only with RFF.
Is this related to this TapaTalk?
All other websites I frequent open immediately so it seems the issue is not on my end, either with my internet connect or browser.
This is my experience also. RFF is becoming very difficult to use. I must try repeatedly just to open the website. This was not a problem previously.
In the last several days I have experienced an issue that resembles server overload only with RFF.
Is this related to this TapaTalk?
Tapatalk is not disabled right now, so it cannot be excluded a priori. But the error report on that Tapatalk forum linked to above is described as causing a javascript induced browser side rendering delay - while I can observe our current speed problem with scripts disabled as well. So it will not be that particular bug that has troubled us for the past few days. There may be other bugs in Tapatalk, but we could just as well be bitten by one in the forum software, or it could be an issue with the hosting provider or his hardware...
Is it back on? 'cos I'm having problems loading anything off the site
Is it back on? 'cos I'm having problems loading anything off the site
I can access the site with Tapatalk (when I can access it at all).
kshapero
05-18-2011, 09:51
Since we installed Tapatalk,
RFF has been a lot slower.
Today it has been deactivated as a test.
StephenI can tell the difference. Kill Tapatalk.
Chris101
05-18-2011, 11:09
RFF was SUPER slow this morning, while all other sites were not. I ran a traceroute in case anyone here can use it to help debug the problem:
[Chris-Heilmans-Computer:~] cheilman% traceroute www.rangefinder.com
traceroute to www.rangefinder.com (75.125.5.11), 64 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1) 1.687 ms 0.951 ms 0.907 ms
2 phnx-dsl-gw31-223.phnx.qwest.net (67.40.227.223) 46.065 ms 46.892 ms
47.406 ms
3 phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net (216.160.199.241) 48.474 ms 48.773 ms 47.145
ms
4 lap-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (67.14.22.78) 57.870 ms 67.915 ms 59.438
ms
5 63.146.27.34 (63.146.27.34) 56.968 ms 58.545 ms 58.373 ms
6 vlan80.csw3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.190) 57.133 ms
vlan90.csw4.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.254) 59.216 ms
vlan60.csw1.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.62) 60.117 ms
7 ae-92-92.ebr2.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.137.29) 59.528 ms 59.702 ms
59.193 ms
8 ae-3-3.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.132.78) 82.837 ms 93.045 ms
81.409 ms
9 ae-63-63.csw1.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.151.133) 82.808 ms 83.213 ms
ae-93-93.csw4.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.151.169) 81.934 ms
10 ae-1-60.edge4.dallas3.level3.net (4.69.145.13) 107.918 ms
ae-4-90.edge4.dallas3.level3.net (4.69.145.205) 182.571 ms
ae-3-80.edge4.dallas3.level3.net (4.69.145.141) 92.672 ms
11 the-planet.edge4.dallas3.level3.net (4.59.32.30) 81.843 ms 80.607 ms
83.076 ms
12 e1-1.ibr02.hstntx1.networklayer.com (70.87.253.54) 86.291 ms 87.396 ms
87.405 ms
13 te2-6.dsr01.hstntx1.networklayer.com (207.218.245.30) 86.770 ms 92.240
ms
te2-6.dsr02.hstntx1.networklayer.com (207.218.245.38) 88.624 ms
14 po15.dsr01.hstntx2.networklayer.com (70.87.253.109) 87.744 ms
po16.dsr01.hstntx2.networklayer.com (70.87.253.101) 87.264 ms
po16.dsr02.hstntx2.networklayer.com (70.87.253.105) 88.891 ms
15 po2.car3.hstntx2.networklayer.com (74.55.252.106) 89.373 ms 99.652 ms
88.516 ms
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * *^C
[Chris-Heilmans-Computer:~] cheilman%
I've not had too many problems recently but today I was unable to get access to the site from about 15:00 GMT till now 21:30 GMT. All other sites were working fine but RFF was timing out.
Ronnie
RFF has been flakey for a day or three for me - mostly slow page loads, sometimes timing out. It has just been unavailable for an hour - total timeouts, sometimes with some message about the database. Now back, and page loads are sometimes slow, sometimes okay.
It reminds me of what happened on a forum that I run. Very similar behaviour, and it turned out that the hosting provider's database server was under excessive load. They never did fix it (blamed my rather small database for the issue, when it had worked perfectly well for months beforehand). I moved to a different provider, which has the database server on the same machine as the web host, and it it has been super-fast ever since. It occured to me that maybe something similar was happening to RFF when some of the page loaded quickly - title bar, menu, sidebar - but not the list of forums/topics.
brainwood
05-18-2011, 13:46
RFF has been very slow for me over last few days. Sometimes it appears the server has gone down as I get server has stopped responding errors . It seems fine now though
I'm not a huge tapatalk fan . Infect I prefer the standard desktop site when accessing with my iPhone... As I doing now
Chris
brainwood
05-18-2011, 13:52
Actually having just checked I can still get to RFF with Tapatalk so it seems to be still working my end !!!
Ken Smith
05-18-2011, 14:13
It's slow for me right now and no other site is. My question is - Why in the hell would anyone need to access RFF or any other forum from their phone?
FYI- I am accessing the forum via Tapatalk and regular browser with no difficulty at all. Many sites use Tapatalk with no issues (LUF for example) so I might peek at the forum app or web server to see if there is a database issue or a problem with excessive threads (or sessions) being opened and staying that way.
I'm accessing from a regular browser in the UK today has been bad. Just hangs sometimes or is very slow.
A bit better now. I think it may be internet routing causing problems because tracert shows timeouts before it gets to RFF.
infact above.net nd secureserver.net seem to be slowing things down a lot.
1 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms loop-l2tp.fb1.newnet.co.uk [212.87.69.130]
2 39 ms 40 ms 41 ms lns0.th.newnet.co.uk [212.87.69.193]
3 35 ms 38 ms 37 ms 7609-2.lan2.newnet.co.uk [212.87.79.66]
4 35 ms 38 ms 37 ms ge-3-3-0.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [195.66.226.76]
5 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms ge-3-3-0.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [64.125.28.145]
6 85 ms 38 ms 37 ms so-5-3-0.mpr1.lhr2.uk.above.net [64.125.24.13]
7 * 125 ms 153 ms so-0-1-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.57]
8 110 ms 110 ms 109 ms xe-0-3-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.29.17]
9 137 ms 137 ms 169 ms xe-2-2-0.cr1.iah1.us.above.net [64.125.29.37]
10 158 ms 160 ms 160 ms xe-1-1-0.mpr3.phx2.us.above.net [64.125.30.149]
11 161 ms 162 ms 159 ms 64.124.196.38.allocated.above.net [64.124.196.38]
12 162 ms 162 ms 162 ms ip-208-109-112-137.ip.secureserver.net [208.109.112.137]
13 162 ms 162 ms 162 ms ip-208-109-112-161.ip.secureserver.net [208.109.112.161]
14 162 ms 162 ms 162 ms ip-208-109-112-145.ip.secureserver.net [208.109.112.145]
15 160 ms 161 ms 161 ms ip-208-109-112-181.ip.secureserver.net [208.109.112.181]
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 161 ms 160 ms 160 ms parkwebwin-v01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [68.178.232.100]
Trace complete.
Nikon Bob
05-18-2011, 14:42
RFF was slow or would not load for several days and then yesterday it seemed to clear up and run normally. That is until this afternoon when it timed out several times again. I have had no trouble whatsoever in getting on to other sites the whole time RFF has been flakey.
Bob
I thought it was improved a day or so ago but last night and this morning it's being very flakey again.
I find it difficult to judge at times because I have satelite broadband due to the area I live in having no other options! It's rubbish ... it drops out randomly at least once day and costs an arm and a leg in this country ... and a lot of Aussies are forced to use it because of our geography and smal population.
Actually, I've only just noticed that the random gallery images have disappeared, along with the classifieds from the home page. :eek:
I can't believe I've only just noticed that ... I obviously need another coffee! :D
I just noticed that myself! The classified app (new from a few months ago I believe) seems to have hiccups now and then. I see quite a few "double postings" of listings, for example.
Actually, I've only just noticed that the random gallery images have disappeared, along with the classifieds from the home page. :eek:
I can't believe I've only just noticed that ... I obviously need another coffee! :D
It's slow for me right now and no other site is. My question is - Why in the hell would anyone need to access RFF or any other forum from their phone?
Who NEEDS RFF or any forum with any device?
charjohncarter
05-18-2011, 15:45
I was beginning to wonder if my browser was causing the problem ... I just installed the lates firefox version and noticed a real slow down. This morning seems back to normal. :)
Same here, thanks for speeding it up.
sepiareverb
05-18-2011, 15:53
Sounds like everyone is getting a taste of rural living. What you're describing is the internet at its best for many of us.
I thought it was improved a day or so ago but last night and this morning it's being very flakey again.
I find it difficult to judge at times because I have satelite broadband due to the area I live in having no other options! It's rubbish ... it drops out randomly at least once day and costs an arm and a leg in this country ... and a lot of Aussies are forced to use it because of our geography and smal population.
It was so slow this afternoon (Eastern US) that my browser timed out just trying to get to RFF. All other sites were normal. RFF is generally slow these days but this afternoon was so slow as to be unusable.
Glad to see it back to normal--but where have the classifieds gone?
A series of three or four pictures used to appear at the bottom of the opening page.
I miss 'em!
PaulB
ColSebastianMoran
05-18-2011, 16:33
RFF was, for all intents and purposes, off the air this afternoon, at least for me. 4pm Eastern time. A-OK now.
Sounds like everyone is getting a taste of rural living. What you're describing is the internet at its best for many of us.
Rural living ... sort of! :D
I live twenty five minutes drive away from Brisbane's city centre in a small suburb (suburbette?) that because it only has nine houses doesn't qualify for any attention from Telstra regrding infrastructure improvements ... now or in the future! :p
I believe there are efforts underway to determine the cause(s) and fix the variable performance we've been seeing on the site recently. I'll guess the removal of the gallery thumbnails and the recent ads from the front page is a test (along with the Tapatalk issue) to assess the effects on loading speed.
SciAggie
05-18-2011, 18:08
If feedback helps, RFF has always loaded fine for me with ads and thumbnails. I have only experienced problems since Tapatalk was initiated.
Any forum I frequent that has installed tapatalk in the past invariably have had problems. The sites were slow, non loading or sections of the site unreachable.
Here's just one example below...
"Tapatalk Has Been Removed
We have had to remove the Tapatalk mobile phone application from ***** 101. It was being used to distribute malware through this site and almost got us blacklisted by Google. We recommend that you use the Forum Runner app instead if you are accessing ***** 101 from a mobile phone."
gliderbee
05-18-2011, 21:02
Yesterday evening, RFF was not accessible for me, but this morning (my time) everything is working fine, including tapatalk. Please keep it; very handy application !
Stefan.
Rural living ... sort of! :D
I live twenty five minutes drive away from Brisbane's city centre in a small suburb (suburbette?) that because it only has nine houses doesn't qualify for any attention from Telstra regrding infrastructure improvements ... now or in the future! :p
We have a somewhat similar situation. We're about 35 miles east of Vancouver in a suburban/rural community of about 120,00 population which is pretty much blanketed by high speed internet--either cable or ADSL or both in many cases. By a strange quirk of how the power--and hence, the power poles--is distributed in our area we've ended up in a pocket of about 12 homes which have no access to either. Fortunately a couple years ago a business next door installed a wireless service--transmitted from a 1000 ft. hill a couple miles away--and they feed a signal to us. It's a business oriented service and, as such, is pretty reliable and quite fast. I do periodic tests and usually get speeds in the range of 3-4 mbps. It was a major improvement from the dial-up we were stuck with before...
We have a somewhat similar situation. We're about 35 miles east of Vancouver in a suburban/rural community of about 120,00 population which is pretty much blanketed by high speed internet--either cable or ADSL or both in many cases. By a strange quirk of how the power--and hence, the power poles--is distributed in our area we've ended up in a pocket of about 12 homes which have no access to either. Fortunately a couple years ago a business next door installed a wireless service--transmitted from a 1000 ft. hill a couple miles away--and they feed a signal to us. It's a business oriented service and, as such, is pretty reliable and quite fast. I do periodic tests and usually get speeds in the range of 3-4 mbps. It was a major improvement from the dial-up we were stuck with before...
Fortunately in OZ if you can't get broadband through the normal providers there's a government subsidy that covers the cost of the rather expensive satelite receiving gear that goes on your roof which if you had to pay for it would cost you $3000.00 + :eek:
It's not all that fast though and the monthly gigabyte allowance is pretty pitiful ... even on an eighty dollar per month plan!
Its slow again today. Funny thing is: if I click on the last post of thread arrow thingy from a list threads, the progress bar shows the page downloading but nothing happens. There is a delay and then suddenly it pops into view. I put this down to some dodgy javascript/Jquery/Ajax processing that has been recently installed.
pixelatedscraps
05-19-2011, 03:03
I couldn't get onto RFF at all yesterday, either from desktop or Tapatalk.
All seems okay now but please don't take away TT comparability, I actually prefer using it to the standard desktop version of RFF (except for the Classifieds, of course)
/hides from rotten eggs
pixelatedscraps
05-19-2011, 03:06
Fortunately in OZ...
It's not all that fast though and the monthly gigabyte allowance is pretty pitiful ... even on an eighty dollar per month plan!
I just visited melbourne after an absence of 8 years and man, the broadband network in Oz is still in a pitiful state. Wtf have Telstra and Optus been doing with themselves all these years??
I just visited melbourne after an absence of 8 years and man, the broadband network in Oz is still in a pitiful state. Wtf have Telstra and Optus been doing with themselves all these years??
For comparison: here in Kyrgyzstan, whose per-capita GDP is ranked 144th in the world, I get 100 Mbps Cat-5 ethernet to the home, and I live neither in a business district nor a gated expat community.
sepiareverb
05-19-2011, 03:36
we've got a similar kind of connection here Keith, via a radio connection, and while it can be faster than satellite it is at least as iffy. Generally I have connection speeds in the Kbps range. 40-60 is blistering fast.
Vermont is hilly an our former governor gave huge tax breaks to the former phone company to wire up all the hollows and small towns. They took the breaks for years, did almost nothing then sold all of Vermont to a company that went bankrupt a year later.
AT&T just brought 3G to a nearby town, that connection is far faster than what I can get at home. One of the many factors in our move to town in a few months.
via Tapatalk.
The ads are back and the site is loading quite rapidly!
Thanks!
PaulB
Fortunately in OZ if you can't get broadband through the normal providers there's a government subsidy that covers the cost of the rather expensive satelite receiving gear that goes on your roof which if you had to pay for it would cost you $3000.00 + :eek:
It's not all that fast though and the monthly gigabyte allowance is pretty pitiful ... even on an eighty dollar per month plan!
The NBN will solve all your problems :p
<National Broadband Network for those o/s... a 40-billion $ white elephant)
And here on my flaky cellular laptop connection (sometimes lightning, sometimes dial-up), RFF is no different than before and always loads ok.
Stephen - it was definitely much slower yesterday several times when I logged on. Sometimes so slow that it timed out.
Fine today
RFF has been slow all week. Excruciatingly, mind numbingly, watching paint dry between page updates s l o w.
And that was on the one or two occasions when it was a bit faster than all of the other times when RFF was unuseably slow.
I'll look forward to your conclusions.
Since I installed TapaTalk, I've become a frequent visitor to the site and come across hundreds of interesting threads that I wouldn't have spotted using laptop access.
Previously, I was an occasional (twice a week maybe) visitor and mainly focussed on one section of the Forum. Now it's everyday and the Forum is much more rewarding.
Does RFF have the facility to recognise where I finished reading any particular thread ? That's a big advantage with TapaTalk, IMO.
Does RFF have the facility to recognise where I finished reading any particular thread ? That's a big advantage with TapaTalk, IMO.
Yes, of course. Prior to the title to any thread which has new posts you will see an arrow. Click that and you will be taken to where you left off in a thread. Do this instead of clicking the thread's title.
Chris101
05-20-2011, 09:54
Yes, of course. Prior to the title to any thread which has new posts you will see an arrow. Click that and you will be taken to where you left off in a thread. Do this instead of clicking the thread's title.
Rover, I find that this facility is not as reliable at RFF as it is at other vBulletin sites I visit. It seems that as long as I do not visit RFF, the pointers are intact, but when I visit, sometime between five minutes and an hour later, all the pointers reset to "read" whether I have looked at the topic or not.
It has been this way since I joined.
Yes, of course.
Thanks for that. I've always used the Title, or Last Page, or Last Post.
Save some time there :)
I found RFF to be agonizingly slow as recently as last night. It took forever for the page to complete after posting.*
Tapatalk? I had not heard of this, and don't have it. All my posts are done with the "hunt and peck" app.
*Update: when I finished posting the above, it needed over a minute to fill in all the bells and whistles on the page, such as all the avatars.
Rover, I find that this facility is not as reliable at RFF as it is at other vBulletin sites I visit. It seems that as long as I do not visit RFF, the pointers are intact, but when I visit, sometime between five minutes and an hour later, all the pointers reset to "read" whether I have looked at the topic or not.
It has been this way since I joined.
I've found it like that here too. If I open the site and then get distracted before I look at any threads, when I come back they're all marked as read.
Ronnie
CameraQuest
05-22-2011, 13:43
the results are in.
despite its advantages for some,
real world RFF just works a LOT faster without tapatalk
tapatalk will not be reinstalled.
anyone know of good alternatives to check out?
Stephen
if its not installed now its still very slow.
[edit]
maybe I spoke too soon. Things have got a bit quicker.
semordnilap
05-23-2011, 06:21
Still sloooooow...
:(
And what happened to the gallery images at the top of the homepage?
I can still access RFF with Tapatalk. This might mean that the deinstallation has failed, or that part of Tapatalk does not require site-side code installed and works like any generic client. In the latter case, we'll have to see whether the functionality holds up over time - and we have to face the fact that any present or future slowdown has some other reason apart from Tapatalk.
gliderbee
05-23-2011, 07:12
I can still access RFF with Tapatalk, and the forum itself works fine using my PC also. It's certainly not slow.
Stefan.
Chris101
05-23-2011, 07:22
RFF is the fastest it's been in months today, for me.
yep, it seems to be faster at the moment
anyone know of good alternatives to check out?
I use TouchBB on one of my fora. It's free and works very well:
http://www.messageforums.net/iphoneforumreader.php?get=script
Cheers!
Abbazz
this (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1578237) also came up some time ago. too bad if TapaTalk will be disabled. havent noticed any difference one way or another in past weeks.
I use TouchBB on one of my fora. It's free and works very well:
http://www.messageforums.net/iphoneforumreader.php?get=script
Cheers!
Abbazz
Travis L.
05-23-2011, 07:34
I don't think Tapatalk is your problem. RFF has always been slower and more glitchy than ANY of the other vbulletin forums I frequent.
Most of which I should add are currently running Tapatalk with no issues.
semordnilap
05-23-2011, 07:39
These days RFF is super slow to load images... avatars, even thread icons keep me waiting for over a minute. For me this is something new... maybe a week or so old?
I don't think Tapatalk is your problem. RFF has always been slower and more glitchy than ANY of the other vbulletin forums I frequent.
Most of which I should add are currently running Tapatalk with no issues.
+1. been under impression that vbulletin under RFF is heavily customized, that makes software upgrades difficult and causes surprises with third party apps like TapaTalk now.
buzzardkid
05-23-2011, 08:34
Now that TapaTalk is off, I can still see a lot of re-connects in a session. Wrote a PM half an hour ago and while writing it I saw at least seven re-connects before even all the smileys had loaded on the page :eek:
I cannot tell you if other boards are slower or faster, because I'm very RFF-loyal and never go there :) but I can tell you that this is an issue of the last two to three weeks, before that I never had re-connects in a session.
Some things work at what I consider normal for RFF and other things are very slow. Using the last post arrow or the arrow under the thread column is very slow. But its intemittent.
I rekon you need an index rebuild on the database and these problems would very likely disappear.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
All of this is just goofy.
works ok on another forum I frequent.
the results are in.
despite its advantages for some,
real world RFF just works a LOT faster without tapatalk
tapatalk will not be reinstalled.
anyone know of good alternatives to check out?
Stephen
bizarrius
05-23-2011, 10:07
whats a tapatalk?
brainwood
05-23-2011, 11:22
RFF had been running very slow over the past few weeks, to the point where my mac would often give up and say connection lost. Today I've never known RFF to be so FAST.
buzzardkid
05-23-2011, 11:25
Uhm... Posting this through Tapatalk on iPhone...
:confused:
RFF had been running very slow over the past few weeks, to the point where my mac would often give up and say connection lost. Today I've never known RFF to be so FAST.
+1
Same here...much faster than I have ever seen it... But when tapatalk was disabled, the random photos at the top were also disabled.. This could also have an overall affect, since it feels faster to me than before tapatalk was installed on the site.
Gary
buzzardkid
05-23-2011, 13:03
Respect, they found it.
Gotta say, I don't know what it is you guys are doin' back there, but if it gets any faster than it currently is, I'll have cracks in my monitor screen!
:p
plummerl
05-23-2011, 18:27
Sorry, but here in Seattle, RFF has never been slower! :(
Tapatalk is great, using it for many sites. What about Forum Runner?
The problem can not be tapatalk, there is something more.
BTW here in Buenos Aires RFF works smooth as usual.
No tapatalk at the moment and the site is very slow (below the average slow) to load.
Good morning from Lithuania.
it
just
keeps
getting
slower
and
slower
Much slower in Toronto as well. The Gallery used to load near instantaneously with thumbnails but now it's painfully slow with each thumbnail showing up one by one with long waits in between. This is consistent with different platforms (XP, Vista, iOS) and ISPs (Rogers, Bell).
Speeds in Germany have been good enough for almost two weeks running, after a few outrageously slow days. I suspect something more than just the Tapatalk skin must be broken there - whether ISP connectivity or an oversold virtual server. Is this a cloud server, virtual server or some rack hosted bit of hardware?
Clearly with Tapatalk now disabled and access continuing to be poor for many users the problem wasn't Tapatalk. APUG and the Leica Forum, for example, have no problems with implementing Tapatalk.
Hmmm, if Tapatalk is not the culprit for the slowness of RFF then please turn Tapatalk back on. It's a great convenience for those of us who use it.
-Randy
Please re-enable tapatalk I loved using it. :(
Much slower in Toronto as well. The Gallery used to load near instantaneously with thumbnails but now it's painfully slow with each thumbnail showing up one by one with long waits in between. This is consistent with different platforms (XP, Vista, iOS) and ISPs (Rogers, Bell).
I would concur with this assessment.
Regardless of "speed of delivery" as well - DSL, Cable or T1/OC3 line.
Dave
Clearly with Tapatalk now disabled and access continuing to be poor for many users the problem wasn't Tapatalk. APUG and the Leica Forum, for example, have no problems with implementing Tapatalk.
I can second that!
Tapatalk is a very handy application, keeping the forum friends together even more. It will be nice to have it back...
I've got my fingers crossed, hoping it will come back too!
Yes, I would like Tapatalk back, it seems clear now it was not the problem.
Mucho Gratis :)
You have no idea if that is correct. Installing software does all sorts of updates which may not have been undone with the un-install. The webmaster should be on the case but somehow I think we may have a long wait for normal service to be resumed.
For those of you who always have sluggish performance, just curious, have you tried google public dns, or a local dns altnernative (opendns, ultradns ?)? http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html#setup
what are your typical ping times from your pc to www.rangefinderforum.com ? Mine are about 50ms. Unless the site is obviously down or being hammered, usually weekend nights, sat. or sundays.
For those of you who always have sluggish performance, just curious, have you tried google public dns, or a local dns altnernative (opendns, ultradns ?)? http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html#setup
what are your typical ping times from your pc to www.rangefinderforum.com ? Mine are about 50ms. Unless the site is obviously down or being hammered, usually weekend nights, sat. or sundays.
wow ! This is heavy stuff. It just might help overall, not just with RFF.
If you do this be CAUTIOUS, and follow directions carefully. Write everything down, just in case you have to go back.
Remember----RFF servers and software may have problems too. It is a possibility. Just saying.;)
For those of you who always have sluggish performance, just curious, have you tried google public dns, or a local dns altnernative (opendns, ultradns ?)? http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html#setup
what are your typical ping times from your pc to www.rangefinderforum.com ? Mine are about 50ms. Unless the site is obviously down or being hammered, usually weekend nights, sat. or sundays.
Oh---I forgot one thing---Thanks Ampguy !
For those of you who always have sluggish performance, just curious, have you tried google public dns, or a local dns altnernative (opendns, ultradns ?)? http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html#setup
what are your typical ping times from your pc to www.rangefinderforum.com ? Mine are about 50ms. Unless the site is obviously down or being hammered, usually weekend nights, sat. or sundays.
Ping time is about 40ms - however, merely being able to ping a server / address does not necessarily mean the site, or the hosting service (be it Apache, IIS, or even GWS) isn't having an issue on its own. That is to say, a server may be up and "operational" and can respond to Ping requests but that doesn't mean the Web Hosting software is functioning up to spec.
Dave
dave lackey
05-27-2011, 15:22
Not working well for me...takes about 10+ seconds to go screen to screen.:mad:
Ping time is about 40ms - however, merely being able to ping a server / address does not necessarily mean the site, or the hosting service (be it Apache, IIS, or even GWS) isn't having an issue on its own. That is to say, a server may be up and "operational" and can respond to Ping requests but that doesn't mean the Web Hosting software is functioning up to spec.
Dave
+1
And servers can be configured to give low priority to ping requests so that when the end server is reached and timeouts occur, its possible the server is working normally but just doesn't respond quickly to a tracert ping request.
Here's something interesting though. I'm browsing mobile on my iPod touch and I note that the response time is not as slow as on my desktop or laptop.
Dave
That's interesting. So from the UK, does your traceroute when completed, eventually end up at: 64.38.3.147 (layered / Chicago) ?
Here's something interesting though. I'm browsing mobile on my iPod touch and I note that the response time is not as slow as on my desktop or laptop.
Dave
Could be serving different pages for mobile. I'm still guessing its a database indexing problem probably caused by too infrequent maintenance. But really it could be so many things that without acess to servers to monitor it its all guesswork.
That's interesting. So from the UK, does your traceroute when completed, eventually end up at: 64.38.3.147 (layered / Chicago) ?
OOOOPS !!!!
I think I tracerouted rangefinderforum.org by mistake
here's the correct one.
2 35 ms 35 ms 34 ms lns0.th.newnet.co.uk [212.87.69.193]
3 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms 7609-1.lan2.newnet.co.uk [212.87.79.65]
4 115 ms 114 ms 112 ms 195.66.224.130
5 114 ms 120 ms 114 ms vb1042.rar3.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [207.88.13.202]
6 134 ms 138 ms 136 ms 207.88.14.62.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.62]
7 131 ms 134 ms 133 ms 207.88.184.146.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.184.146]
8 147 ms 133 ms 131 ms border5.po1-bbnet1.chg.pnap.net [64.94.32.10]
9 129 ms 131 ms 130 ms layeredtech-6.border5.chg.pnap.net [74.217.8.10]
10 133 ms 134 ms 134 ms 74.200.240.57
11 146 ms 145 ms 145 ms 64.38.8.81
12 149 ms 148 ms 148 ms 64.38.3.147
Trace complete.
OK, here's something else we can try: when I enter this site here:
http://pagespeed.googlelabs.com/
I get 37/100 (from Chrome on a Mac).
When I profile it with Yslow on windows, there's no shortage of optimization that could be employed.
db issues are probably lingering, but I don't see why those would give some folks 10 second page refreshes, and others just normal kinda draggin', but comes back in a few seconds, response??
OK, here's something else we can try: when I enter this site here:
http://pagespeed.googlelabs.com/
I get 37/100 (from Chrome on a Mac).
When I profile it with Yslow on windows, there's no shortage of optimization that could be employed.
db issues are probably lingering, but I don't see why those would give some folks 10 second page refreshes, and others just normal kinda draggin', but comes back in a few seconds, response??
Its all guess work and won't be resolved from outside of the server.
For those of you who always have sluggish performance, just curious, have you tried google public dns
Google Public DNS is a great way to provide Google with yet another track record of what you do on the Internet. Due to being DNS-based, it includes things outside the browser, such as when and from where you use Skype, mail readers, OS updates (...).
This is arguably the primary purpose of Google DNS and I guess a little warning is in order before recommending it to people.
That's a shame. I found Tapatalk to be a great way to access RFF, far better than the browser.
its a shame that. i really love RFF on tapatalk. Leica-forum still works and the forum seems fine on browser thou. sad news for me :(
Bring back tapatalk capability!!!!
Surely, all those hundreds of forums that enable tapatalk can't be having system issues as well!!!
Bring back tapatalk capability!!!!
Surely, all those hundreds of forums that enable tapatalk can't be having system issues as well!!!
Agreed. Please bring back Tapatalk.
I agree, I miss Tapatalk. It's a great way to access the site when at work or on the go, which is quite often for me!
Once again I think the server is having an issue with runaway threads and threads not timing out. Too many active threads open, sluggish performance on an average server. This really shouldn't be a big deal to fix but, oh well.
pixelatedscraps
06-01-2011, 17:38
Please bring it back - RFF is so much easier to browse on Tapatalk than it is on any desktop browser. Would be a great shame if RFF can't make it work as it so clearly works on a lot of other forums
Disable or enable whatever you want, but fix RFF... It takes a long time to load pages most of the time as it waits for a connection.
I agree. If there are underlying root causes dogging RFF, let's fix that.
scottwallick
06-01-2011, 19:00
Tapatalk Awakening?
No kidding. I'm back to reading the forums only occasionally now. Even the forum software and/or servers around here can't handle change.
Tapatalk, along with some bad code and db tuning needs have been the issue. There have been some tweaks to the db but not apache. the apache conf is the way it is to limit the potential of DOS attacks. The CMS on RFF is very poor and old and needs replacing, Showing explains from mysql shows that the gallery software and classifieds software also contains poorly written queries. One thing that would help but cost more money is to separate the web server from the db server. Overall there has definitely been an improvement since this all started. We could also go to innodb storage engine but we would lose the fulltext search that comes with vb. There are also tons of hacks doing checks on every page load to make sure certain things happen as expected. Compare the page load times on the home page vs http://rangefinderforum.com/forums . At least for me it is significant. Anyway, we are looking at options.
For waht it's worth the site loads for me in about a second or so.
sepiareverb
06-02-2011, 15:10
We could also go to innodb storage engine but we would lose the fulltext search that comes with vb.
For what it's worth, the search function isn't worth it.
For what it's worth, the search function isn't worth it.
+ 1
Please don't let saving the existing text search function be the reason for not changing things so that TapaTalk can work.
sepiareverb
06-02-2011, 17:44
Please don't let saving the existing text search function be the reason for not changing things so that TapaTalk can work.
+1
I've never noticed RFF being slower than anything else on my slow connection, other than the Portal page being a bit sluggish at times. And since 3G has arrived here in rural VT my phone is far faster than my internet connection. Wish I'd kept that unlimited data plan...
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff221/sepiareverb/IMG_1822.png http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff221/sepiareverb/IMG_1816.png
pixelatedscraps
06-09-2011, 06:41
Let's fix RFF - it's been buggy (Classifieds pm system is still screwy). Then bring back Tapatalk.
If it requires money to fix it, I'll be happy to donate. I've been reading about 10% of what I used to when RFF was working with Tapatalk.
Wow. I haven't been able to get onto rff for weeks, via web or tapatalk. Glad to be on today.
Normal service seems to have been resumed. Speed is reasonable all the time as of last night. I'm curious to know what the resolution was.
Methinks the server is on the edge of its performance limits for this forum and tapatalk pushed it over the edge but its guesswork from this end.
Dr Gaspar
06-13-2011, 11:40
Forum is working great. I don't know what you guys did, but leave it like that for a while.
No one else missing forum listings on left side of pages?
Thanks for the news. I'm usually late to the party.
35mmdelux
06-16-2011, 22:56
Im not only blogging and tweeting, but I'm tapatalking now. This place is coool!
rodneyAB
06-17-2011, 23:39
dah-dit-dit-dit-dah-dit-dah-dah-dit-doo-doo
Photon42
06-29-2011, 10:31
So what's the plan now with the Tapatalk integration? Any outcome of the analysis after a month or so without it?
Thanks a lot and regards
Ivo
Photon42
06-29-2011, 21:34
I found performance varying after Tapa was deactivated. So I'm interested if someone was actually either able to hunt down the root cause or if at least something definite cn be said regarding Tapa. No plan to sink the ship :)
CameraQuest
07-06-2011, 17:06
ForumRunner, an alternative to Tapatalk,
should be installed by next week.
Stephen
ForumRunner, an alternative to Tapatalk,
should be installed by next week.
Stephen
Cool, thanks!
Photon42
07-06-2011, 21:19
ForumRunner, an alternative to Tapatalk,
should be installed by next week.
Stephen
Excellent news, Stephen. Thanks for your efforts!
phototektour
07-10-2011, 00:41
Good to see, that I´m not alone :-(
I have a bookmark from rangefinderforum at tapatalk. So I´m sure, some time ago it was working. Now it doesn´t work for weeks, months ... I don´t know how long it´s dead already. There is everytimes a note to inform the admin. Hereby I´m doing this (hope he is reading the thread).
What a pity ... and I changed to LeicaForum.
Have a nice Sinday,
R
Photon42
07-10-2011, 06:07
Can't see it installed yet. I'm actually not convinced these add-ons are the main cause for the observed behavior.
unless RFF has been renamed the micro four thirds forum ;)
btw, I'm using the free version of FR
Can't see it installed yet. I'm actually not convinced these add-ons are the main cause for the observed behavior.
I'm actually not convinced these add-ons are the main cause for the observed behavior.
+1. At this point, I'm reluctant to buy another forum app just for RFF.
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Unlike tapatalk, there's a free version of forum runner, seems pretty usable on l-camera and other forums, give it a try, would be curious how you think it compares with tapatalk.
+1. At this point, I'm reluctant to buy another forum app just for RFF.
/
Forum Runner is actually slightly faster than Tapatalk on my devices. I look forward to using it here on RFF as I've missed Tapatalk.
Any idea when ForumRunner will be available?
I don't want to purchase it till it is available..
Yes, I find I browse and use RFF much less in the recent months since Tapatalk has been disabled. I don't care if RFF brings back Tapatalk per se, but some sort of iPhone/smartphone forum browser should be implemented ASAP, because it is the means by which many of us do browse the internet -- and conduct our online commercial activities. This trend is on the increase, too.
I am not tech allergic - quite the opposite, but I do in fact prevent any serious internet activities, like reading, selling, buying, forum activities, etc … on portable devices, except a real computer.
I find it uncomfortable, slow and annoying, to use a smart phone for such activities.
I do have a iPhone, which I use for web, if absolutely needed. It is a phone, calendar, music player, swiss army knife otherwise.
A comfortable, modern web device it is clearly not - way too fiddly and small screen for reading.
I don't miss any Tapa, …
Yes, I find I browse and use RFF much less in the recent months since Tapatalk has been disabled. I don't care if RFF brings back Tapatalk per se, but some sort of iPhone/smartphone forum browser should be implemented ASAP, because it is the means by which many of us do browse the internet -- and conduct our online commercial activities. This trend is on the increase, too.
I never found tapatalk until after it was shut down on RFF, but I do find that I keep up on APUG much better with it.
Photon42
07-25-2011, 10:11
Web content for small devices still needs to be treated differently today, for performance and appearance reasons. Browsing RFF on the iPhone is certainly not fast with the built-in browser. That's where Tapas are good for :cool:
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