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Bill Pierce
05-11-2011, 08:45
DSLR’s are thought of as BIG, too BIG for street photography. Truth is, with a zoom or a very high speed fixed focal-length lens, they are big. But, put a small fixed focal-length lens on them and you have a relatively unobtrusive camera.
Most of these small, slower lenses are economy lenses, not producing the highest image quality. But, outdoors, on the street, you can stop them down. I’ve mentioned before, that the $90 Canon 50/1.8 produces images at f/5.6 that rival, and in many cases exceed the quality of the expensive 50/1.2 - probably because it is a much simpler design.
For those of you who have already done it, perhaps you can tell your friends who haven’t equipped their big, expensive DSLR with a cheap lens, why they should.
The Canon lens you mention is light, great for walkabout. Vignettes a bit wide open, but it is a nice one. I like my little rangefinders and their tiny lenses for street though.
chrismoret
05-11-2011, 09:24
Did a lot of street things back in the 90s with a Nikon F3 and a fixed 28 or 35mm. And indeed it always felt as a good combination. Left the huge motor drive in the bag. :-)
Joe Brugger
05-11-2011, 09:30
The truth no one seems to learn -- almost any lens since 1980 is more than adequate from f4 to f11. Be fun to tabulate the working f/stop on internet-posted photos.
D300 and the 50/1.8 AF-D is a nice combination too.
tbarker13
05-11-2011, 09:41
The truth no one seems to learn -- almost any lens since 1980 is more than adequate from f4 to f11. Be fun to tabulate the working f/stop on internet-posted photos.
D300 and the 50/1.8 AF-D is a nice combination too.
No doubt. It's sort of funny to read posts from people who insist on having the fastest (and most expensive) glass - but never use the lenses at anything wider than f 4 or 5.6. It's like having a high-performance sports car, but never driving it faster than 45 mph.
My D700 with the CV 40mm f2 was a joy to use on the street.
Ronald M
05-11-2011, 09:54
D7000 with 35 1.8 is a killer and small as the old days.
D700 with 50 1.4 really is not that bad if I leave my grip off.
A D40 with 35 1.8 and you look like every dumba.. amateur walking the street. An the photos print up better than the photos you are likely to take.
Why I love my 28, 35 and 50 Color Skopars in LTM. Ridiculously tiny and portable and are actually good even wide open.
Absolutely. I've got the same three lenses and agree entirely.
Put an M42 adapter on your dslr and you have a wide range of tiny (comparatively) lenses. My favourite is a 35mm Super Takumar.
The old manual 28mm/f3.5 sticks on my Pentax DSLR like glue...
Plenty DOF even wide open, "real" 42mm just like my Oly RC, which
I still use for b/w.
Thomas
I recommended a buddy of mine to try OM lenses on his 7D, mainly because he shoots video and those little lenses are nice and sharp and with smooth manual focus action. He loves them and they make his camera surprisingly portable.
p.giannakis
05-11-2011, 11:48
I use a tiny EOS 300V with the EF 50 f/1.8. Great combo to carry around and fast to use.
River Dog
05-11-2011, 11:59
Agreed. The nifty fifty is a pin-sharp bargain.
I have fallen back in love with my black Pentax MX and compact 50mm 1.7 SMC (the mirror is a little noisy as it needs some new foam) but it is small and discreet, with a lovely big viewfinder.
Looking forward to putting some Ektar through it soon.
damien.murphy
05-11-2011, 12:07
I use a Nikon D80 with a small 35mm f2 lens, but I don't consider it remarkably portable. One day soon I will try a Nikon D3100-size body with a small 35mm AF-S, but am not expecting miracles. Nothing as portable as a rangefinder/ manual film slr, in my opinion, which will be my holy grail of digital cameras, if they can make a digital slr that small.
The Fuji X100 comes close, and that's where the game is for me.
Roger Hicks
05-11-2011, 12:40
Better still, small camera, small lens. Nikkormat with 45/2.8 GN?
Cheers,
R.
Chuck Albertson
05-11-2011, 20:45
I have one of those 50 1.8s that Nikon makes, and it's a great lens. You don't have to stop it down much to get decent pictures, and it was only about $100 new. I loan it out on occasion to friends who complain about lugging around a DSLR and a zoom, and it's a revelation to them. It's surprising the number of people these days who've never shot with a prime.
shadowfox
05-12-2011, 09:24
It's hard to beat Olympus E-P2 + Panny 20/1.7 (40mm equivalent) for street photography.
It's hard to beat Olympus E-P2 + Panny 20/1.7 (40mm equivalent) for street photography.
...not sure about that.
Wait until it falls from a table on a wooden floor. Just lost my Sigma DP1 this way.
No signs of damage on the body and lens, but the screen stays pink!
This has been my 3rd digital (not cheap!)compact that died from impact
my film gear (and probably my K100d) would laugh about!
Thomas
(sorry for imperfect English)
tom.w.bn
05-12-2011, 10:28
On a crop body, try the EF 35mm f/2 lens - that was my favorite for a long time (since it's about a 56mm). The real killer feature is the close-focusing ability. I use a collapsing rubber hood for a 50mm with it.
Not a crop body so the difference is a little bigger. The lens is nice but the quality is not comparable.
http://thomaswphotos.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/img_08361.jpg
p.giannakis
05-12-2011, 11:01
On a crop body, try the EF 35mm f/2 lens - that was my favorite for a long time (since it's about a 56mm). The real killer feature is the close-focusing ability. I use a collapsing rubber hood for a 50mm with it.
The EOS 300V is a film camera.
charjohncarter
05-12-2011, 11:30
You are definitely right: on the left a non street camera, or the right a F/1.8 on a P3n:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2113/2188985214_fc7aebacee.jpg
... But, put a small fixed focal-length lens on them and you have a relatively unobtrusive camera.
Most of these small, slower lenses are economy lenses, not producing the highest image quality. But, outdoors, on the street, you can stop them down. ...
Big camera, little lens: we can do that. :)
http://patternassociates.com/rico/leica/misc/ouago3.jpg
http://patternassociates.com/rico/leica/misc/ouago1.jpg
Shown above is Canon 1Ds w/Elmar 90 3-element in Visoflex configuration. Street scene shot on a tripod @ f/8, 4sec. Unobtrusive in a relative sense!
jsrockit
05-13-2011, 04:23
I like small cameras with big lenses... ;)
Bill Pierce
05-13-2011, 10:55
I have to confess that, although I use the 50/1.8 Canon stopped down as a small “street lens,” when I need a higher speed lens I often use the 50/2 Summicron R wide open on my DSLR's. It’s almost exactly the same size as the Canon lens - just a lot heavier.
shadowfox
05-13-2011, 11:56
...not sure about that.
Wait until it falls from a table on a wooden floor. Just lost my Sigma DP1 this way.
No signs of damage on the body and lens, but the screen stays pink!
This has been my 3rd digital (not cheap!)compact that died from impact
my film gear (and probably my K100d) would laugh about!
Thomas
(sorry for imperfect English)
Thomas, no camera is immune to a drop from a table to a wooden floor :)
Unless it's made out of rubber.
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