View Full Version : Just fess up, immediate X100 owner ... yes or no!
I'm insatiably curious to find out how many people here are actually going to be straight up X100 owners ... no ifs, buts or maybes ... you're either getting it now or your not! Six months from now who cares, because by then we'll all be salivating over the next miracle mirrorless digital.
I've noticed that Joe is flip flopping over his decision to own one and I can't help but wonder if some of the other 'I have to have one' brigade are doing the same?
Me ... I'm getting one that fell off the back of a truck! :angel:
No. Film is still available and funnier ... :)
skibeerr
03-08-2011, 22:02
I am waiting until I am in Melbourne, since we are staying for five years I would like to have a local warranty.
W
No. Film is still available and funnier ... :)
Film is not just funny, it's a problem Gabor ... I've discovered it's taking up most of the room in my freezer.
How will I test the X100?
Stravinsky
03-08-2011, 23:21
No. Film is still available and funnier ... :)
+1
Film is the reason why my photo passion revamped and the reason why I spend time here...
Have mine. Is worth the wait. Only two arrived in local store. I was first to put down a deposit so was first on the list. Hopefully you get yours soon Keith.
Have mine. Is worth the wait. Only two arrived in local store. I was first to put down a deposit so was first on the list. Hopefully you get yours soon Keith.
There's people throughout the western world waiting for these things and Auckland has a couple already ... what goes on here? :D
Brisbane must be about the same population as Auckland ... where's mine? :p
Moriturii
03-08-2011, 23:35
No. A redundant piece of machine that does nothing that hasn't been done before. And what it does now is no where near worth to spend 1000 dollars on. Imagine what you can do with 1000 dollars, but people insist on dropping it on something that is 'but a thing'. Stop being so materialistic.
No. A redundant piece of machine that does nothing that hasn't been done before. And what it does now is no where near worth to spend 1000 dollars on. Imagine what you can do with 1000 dollars, but people insist on dropping it on something that is 'but a thing'. Stop being so materialistic.
Personally I think a thousand dollars does bugger all these days ... it did a lot when I was a kid though!
And suggesting that people here stop being materialistic is bold ... I admire your 'chutzpah!' :)
It was a yes, until Amazon UK priced the thing at £899 for April shipment, and so now I'm waiting. If Amazon can sell it for that price clearly the launch price (£999) is a decent premium and will fall once stock becomes widely available.
Its a completely pointless and illogical purchase, I could get a similarly good compact RF (e.g. Oly 35RC) and about 90 rolls processed/scanned for the same price. Given the rate I shoot at these days that's probably 9 years of film photography, by which time we'll have a large format digital view camera with movements for the price of a Holga*
*OK, slight exaggeration.
So far the X100 is looking really good but I can't afford one at the moment so the enforced wait means I really get to find out how the camera performs before I put any money down. And no, just because my name is Keith I'm not expecting one to fall off the back of a truck. I have lots of other toys to play with in the interim--20+ cameras as we speak. My wife has told me that if I want anything more I have more than enough stuff to sell in order to finance the purchase. But..the one nice thing about having that much stuff around is that she doesn't know if I do slip another body or lens onto the shelf--not that I would ever cheat on "her"...
NO!
I am stuck 9 hours per day in a full digital workflow.
I would never ever touch a digital camera after end of work... :D
Keith - I think the one thing this thread will prove is that the people who have decided to buy, and the people have have decided not to buy, will both have perfectly reasonable and logical reasons for their decision. However, some of the negatives seems to awfully emphatic and repetitive about it!
Keith - I think the one thing this thread will prove is that the people who have decided to buy, and the people have have decided not to buy, will both have perfectly reasonable and logical reasons for their decision. However, some of the negatives seems to awfully emphatic and repetitive about it!
Yes ... I did get the odd whiff of film verses digital myself! :D
Steve Ash
03-09-2011, 00:40
I invested in the great Leica M system - film and digital. Why on earth shall I leave this amazingly compact and enjoyable system at home for the sake of a little p&s which gimmecks a rangefinder.
Regards
Stve
photo_fred
03-09-2011, 00:43
I'll be buying one but will wait for the first ones to develop bugs and be fixed before I get mine.I usually don't buy when things are first released.
I weighed a few of my cameras last night. The M4/Summicron 35/2 weighs in at 900gm. The Hexar with the same lens is just 5gm lighter. The dSLR with my nearest equivalent lens is 1021gm. (And I feel the difference.)
The X100 specs promise a mass of 445gm with card and batteries.
As I get older that starts to sound attractive in some situations. And I would still have the option of using the other systems when they would suit my needs better.
Roger Hicks
03-09-2011, 01:33
I weighed a few of my cameras last night. The M4/Summicron 35/2 weighs in at 900gm. The Hexar with the same lens is just 5gm lighter. The dSLR with my nearest equivalent lens is 1021gm. (And I feel the difference.)
The X100 specs promise a mass of 445gm with card and batteries.
As I get older that starts to sound attractive in some situations. And I would still have the option of using the other systems when they would suit my needs better.
Dear Chris,
True, but whenever I advance this argument to myself, I reflect that with a minimum of self-discipline (eat and drink a little less, exercise a little more) I could lose the weight of my M9 and any single lens I own for it. With more effort I could probably lose the weight of a small Leica system (2 bodies, 5 lenses).
Cheers,
R.
Film is not just funny, it's a problem Gabor ... I've discovered it's taking up most of the room in my freezer.
How will I test the X100?
How about taking some photos of the, errrr, cat?:eek:
Lol Keith, where did you pre order yours from? if you know anyone in bris has stock do tell :D
I have mine pre-ordered at a shop in WA... long wait.
I have one, it was worth the wait, and now I've had some time to play with the settings and set it up as I want, I imagine it'll be a great little shooter. And everybody who has seen it thinks it's an old film camera.
cpharris
03-09-2011, 01:42
It was a yes, until Amazon UK priced the thing at £899 for April shipment, and so now I'm waiting. If Amazon can sell it for that price clearly the launch price (£999) is a decent premium and will fall once stock becomes widely available.
+1
I had the camera pre-ordered, and expected to collect it next week. But the store wouldn't match the Amazon price, and the filter ring (and other accessories) aren't available until early April. So I've decided to wait and buy once everything I want is available.
Sounds like a fun camera though
edit: Hope that with Fuji increasing output, the quality control isn't affected.
It's not a matter of my weight and fitness Roger (although most of us can improve). In some situations one is already burdened with other necessities, "tools of trade", etc, and every gram counts. In my bushwalking days we had a saying - take care of the ounces and the pounds will take care of themselves. I often photograph in places that require a decent walk to get to, in conditions that demand that food, protective clothing, water, map/gps/compass, first-aid kit, etc be carried. Throw in the odd aches due to old injuries and a concern for the weight of the kit becomes not second nature, but an imperative that demands attention! And in other situations where photography is not the prime reason for the outing, a heavy camera is an unnecessary burden. Where I want good results and I can, I'll take the Hasselblad. Everything else is a compromise, to differing degrees along the spectrum.
I invested in the great Leica M system - film and digital. Why on earth shall I leave this amazingly compact and enjoyable system at home for the sake of a little p&s which gimmecks a rangefinder.
Regards
Stve
:rolleyes:
Lol Keith, where did you pre order yours from? if you know anyone in bris has stock do tell :D
I have mine pre-ordered at a shop in WA... long wait.
Camera Electronic?
Called them today to get an update - delivery is expected late March to early April.
Oh yeah, I voted YES.
Lol Keith, where did you pre order yours from? if you know anyone in bris has stock do tell :D
I have mine pre-ordered at a shop in WA... long wait.
'Digital Camera Warehouse' ... they have stores in Brisbane Melbourne and Sydney. When I rang the other day the guy on the phone seemed to think that there was still unclaimed cameras in the first shipment. I forgot to ask him for a predicted arrival date though!
myM8yogi
03-09-2011, 02:14
If I didn't already have an M9 and J3 50/1.5 I would be very seriously looking at the X100.
However, I would ultimately still be in search of a small digital system that offered genuine wide angle capabilities, and that inevitably means interchangable lenses....so I would probably have looong fondle of the X100 in a shop but inevitably take the m4/3 route or if I had more cash a used M8 + used CV lenses.
Roger Hicks
03-09-2011, 02:17
It's not a matter of my weight and fitness Roger (although most of us can improve). In some situations one is already burdened with other necessities, "tools of trade", etc, and every gram counts. In my bushwalking days we had a saying - take care of the ounces and the pounds will take care of themselves. I often photograph in places that require a decent walk to get to, in conditions that demand that food, protective clothing, water, map/gps/compass, first-aid kit, etc be carried. Throw in the odd aches due to old injuries and a concern for the weight of the kit becomes not second nature, but an imperative that demands attention! And in other situations where photography is not the prime reason for the outing, a heavy camera is an unnecessary burden. Where I want good results and I can, I'll take the Hasselblad. Everything else is a compromise, to differing degrees along the spectrum.
Dear Chris,
Of course you are absolutely right, but equally, I am amused sometimes at how readily people ignore the point I made. Often, the more they weigh, the more willing they are to ignore it.
Cheers,
R.
This camera, and all it's posts everywhere on the net, represents social media at the top of its game. I don't believe, sometimes, that this camera even exists!
jsrockit
03-09-2011, 03:43
No. A redundant piece of machine that does nothing that hasn't been done before. And what it does now is no where near worth to spend 1000 dollars on. Imagine what you can do with 1000 dollars, but people insist on dropping it on something that is 'but a thing'. Stop being so materialistic.
Ridiculous... you don't want the camera so anyone else who wants it is materialistic and a fool? Nonsense. I'm sick of morality judgements on camera / photo sites. People can use their money as they see fit.
I made a promise to myself to stop buying things on credit so I'm saving for one. But as soon as I hit my savings goal oh man you know I'm placing that order.
I want this camera so bad! Too bad they didn't make an option in black paint.
Ridiculous... you don't want the camera so anyone else who wants it is materialistic and a fool? Nonsense. I'm sick of morality judgements on camera / photo sites. People can use their money as they see fit.
I physically could not agree more.
No. I like the camera but I'm not sold on the sensor. I also have no project in mind where I can use it, so I'll wait for X200 with Nikon D7000 sensor.
skibeerr
03-09-2011, 06:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moriturii
No. A redundant piece of machine that does nothing that hasn't been done before. And what it does now is no where near worth to spend 1000 dollars on. Imagine what you can do with 1000 dollars, but people insist on dropping it on something that is 'but a thing'. Stop being so materialistic.
JsRockit
Ridiculous... you don't want the camera so anyone else who wants it is materialistic and a fool? Nonsense. I'm sick of morality judgements on camera / photo sites. People can use their money as they see fit.
Skibeerr
Just one word "ignore".
W
willie_901
03-09-2011, 07:13
I have been waiting patiently for a non-Leica digital camera designed with full manual use in mind that I can hold up to my eye to compose a photograph.External finders don't count for me because I'm feel the camera shouldn't require one. With digital cameras external finders are just an expensive tax to accommodate the vendor's refusal to do the job right in the first place.
I tried a G1 & 20/1.7 but the current performance level of the small sensor and the lack of analog controls soured me on a micro 4/3 solution. So I sold my micro 4/3 kit and started lugging my D200 around with a small prime – and waited for something like the X100 to appear.
The RD-1 would ideal, but I'm vain enough to occasionally make a 12 X 18 or even larger print so the RD-1's sensor is a deal killer. Otherwise I would have bought two RD-1s.
The X100 is just a APS-C sensor based camera fit my needs… nothing more. My first rangefinder was a Canonet QL-17. I then upgraded to a ZI-M with the 35/2 Biogon. I carried both cameras with me where ever I went. The X100 is simply a digital replacement for these cameras.
As far as film goes, I still use film for one of my projects, but when I run out of film that project ends. I would still own the ZI-M except that where I live smart phones are slowly, but surely, killing off color film development availability. I am disappointed with myself as I do not have the interest, time or dedication to film (character) to develop Tri-X in a timely fashion. This is my deficiency, not film's.
I decided to accept the inevitable and embrace digital photography. Due to my vanity, laziness, lack of self-discipline and irrational disgust with all things Leica, I look forward to using X100. Fuji finally provided a tool that meets my every day needs.
When a better tool comes along, I will buy that one too. I really don't care about the cost… life is short.
I am getting one because I sold my Canon DSLR system (almost all of it) and still need a digital for kids, friends and neighbor's pictures and occasions when film is either too expensive or time consuming or else. Was thinking of NEX but the ergonomics are ridiculous.
So I figure- might as well get this one, it looks nice and gives me enough quality and good color so what the hell. Still have M6 for black and white.
;)
No X100 for me, I am perfectly happy with my current machines. :D
wjlapier
03-09-2011, 07:48
Yes. I like what I see in form and function--I'm imagining how it will function. Images thus far are fine to me. AF speed isn't the deal breaker, but I'd like to know for myself how it compares to the GF1/20/1.7--which I consider fast enough.
I am attracted to this camera - I think it's the best design concept any manufacturer has come up with in a long time, but I simply don't need one. I certainly hope that the camera lives up to all my thoughts of what it might be.
If 35mm (equivalent) were my go-to focal length, it might be another story. However for today, my savings account is safe from harm!
No.
Instead, I'm thinking about buying my first 4x5 field camera.
Roger Hicks
03-09-2011, 10:21
No.
Instead, I'm thinking about buying my first 4x5 field camera.
What sort? I ask because they're often SO different from one another.
Cheers,
R.
Jungle Jim
03-09-2011, 10:58
Yes--- My first digital camera. It will be used in conjunction with the battered M3 that I inherited from my father (Lots of memories there! )
Ordered it from Precision Camera using the RFF link and also ordered the hood assembly. I already have a spare Fuji battery, a generic wall charger, and 2 spare Sandisk SDHC cards that I ordered from B&H. Since I didn't order the X100 from Precision until Feb 24th, it may be a while before I get my grubby little paws on one. :D
All the Best!
MRohlfing
03-09-2011, 11:08
For the price of the Fuji X100 I get 2 years in my fitness center which I believe will enable me to carry my Olympus OM-2N everywhere I want.
For the price of the Fuji X100 I get 2 years in my fitness center which I believe will enable me to carry my Olympus OM-2N everywhere I want.
Exactly. For the price of an X100, you can save yourself two years of going to the gym. I know which one I'd rather have...
R!
Just calculated that I will get 2 years gym membership and an OM-1 for what the X100 is selling for.
I know which one my Doctor would recommend :)
jsrockit
03-09-2011, 12:28
I just figured out that I can get over 1200 donuts for the price of the X100... by the time I'm done, it won't matter what camera I want to use anymore.
In the same theme i could buy, shoot and process 1695 frames of colour C41 for the price of an X100 here in NZ
That's 47 rolls of 36 or about a years worth. WI would get way more if it was B&W and I did the processing myself of course ... even more if i got some cheap film from the USA.
shashinka-ichiban
03-09-2011, 13:14
Patiently waiting for mine to come in.
berlincontemporary
03-09-2011, 14:01
I'm insatiably curious to find out how many people here are actually going to be straight up X100 owners ...
I prefer my compact, high quality, minimalist Ricoh GXR.
Had to vote no, sounds like a wonderful piece of gear, but way I look at it I barely use my M8 and M6 an acceptable amount of times each month so adding a third camera to the mix, no matter how nice, seems rather silly for **me**.
**me* the word me in the above post refers to me myself and I and no other person's living or dead.. :)
Call me shallow but I really don't care what it cost, or whether I am materialistic or not. Have had a day to play with my latest addition and I love it. Feels great in my hand, looks great and I am stoked with what comes out of it. But I don't think anything less of anybody that doesn't want one. Life is too short and I just picked up some scans from weekend shooting with my old Konica S2 and OM-4. I am a camera whore and proud of it.
cosmonaut
03-09-2011, 16:23
No. I need to use what I currently have. I have three cameras already, two more than I need.
John Robertson
03-09-2011, 16:42
I'll be buying one but will wait for the first ones to develop bugs and be fixed before I get mine.I usually don't buy when things are first released.
Same with cars I find.
Great to be the first on the block with ------
then the recalls start.
Been there, got the T-Shirt etc!!!
merciless49
03-09-2011, 16:43
No, but I will get it in time. That's what it looks like for me, now. I'll have to save up and sell of some gear to finance the purchase. But I'm also not one to be an early adopter of any technology, so I think it's to my advantage money-wise to wait and also wait for bugs to be fixed.
Same with cars I find.
Great to be the first on the block with ------
then the recalls start.
Been there, got the T-Shirt etc!!!
Fortunately Toyota weren't involved with the X100! :D
yeah I'm getting one.
I could give you a couple of pages of rational arguments why
but at the end of the day the main reason I'm getting one is because I want one, ha!
tedwhite
03-09-2011, 18:02
I voted no. But the vote is just for now. I've got something like 8 cameras and I really don't feel like tracking down and counting all the lenses (although I know where the Xenotar 2.8 is). I will probably wait until a) the price comes down a bit, and b) user reviews start coming in with, of course, a few pics. Can I afford to buy it now? Sure. But I've been bitten a few times by new production runs that turn out to have issues.
(we don't use, apparently, problem anymore).
I'll be interested to see what effect this camera has on my film to digital ratio. When I had an M8 my recreational shooting wasn't influenced by it at all ... I found the need for IR filters and the crop factor quite a deterent and although the Fuji is a fixed lens 35mm field of view it's different because that's what it is and there's no wondering otherwise.
I'm not quite sure why but I have found 35mm film a bit tedious lately ... partly because of the lack of resloution I get from it with my V700 and partly due to costs of film and chemicals, which is income related and no reflection on the price of being a film shooter.
Maybe the Fuji will fill the slot for quick and easy photography and for the more dedicated approach I'll turn to MF and occasional LF where film usage is more considered and the V700 provides better resolution courtesy of the larger negatives!
I'll be interested to see what effect this camera has on my film to digital ratio.
It didn't happen until after owning one for a year, but the M8 was absolutely the camera that weighted the scale toward digital for me. I wouldn't be surprised to hear from others that the X100 is that camera for them.
Can you imagine if Fuji buoyed by the success of the X100 decided to bring out a similar bodied manual focus camera, not fixed lens with say, 28mm, 45mm and 85mm lenses matched to the camera's sensor and a genuine rangefinder focusing system super imposed in the optical viewfinder.
For that I'd even learn to tweet!
What's an X100?
I've been avoiding the X100 threads, but that's getting harder to do. I'm pretty happy w/ my Oly Pen m4/3 digicam. Does everything I need a digital camera to do, AND I can use my LTM and M mount lenses on it. How good is that?
Pretty good I'd say! People with something like a digital Pen would have less reason to be interested in an X100. For those of us with no compact digital however ... :)
I'll be interested to see what effect this camera has on my film to digital ratio. When I had an M8 my recreational shooting wasn't influenced by it at all ... I found the need for IR filters and the crop factor quite a deterent and although the Fuji is a fixed lens 35mm field of view it's different because that's what it is and there's no wondering otherwise.
I'm not quite sure why but I have found 35mm film a bit tedious lately ... partly because of the lack of resloution I get from it with my V700 and partly due to costs of film and chemicals, which is income related and no reflection on the price of being a film shooter.
Maybe the Fuji will fill the slot for quick and easy photography and for the more dedicated approach I'll turn to MF and occasional LF where film usage is more considered and the V700 provides better resolution courtesy of the larger negatives!
I understand that. 35mm film is about the convenience of a compact camera, at the expense of quality and tonality. If I want good negs for printing (B&W) I'll take medium-format any day. An X100 would be good as a tagalong camera when I'm carrying the Hassy kit, or when I don't want to carry the dSLR kit.
I fired off an email to Digital Camera Warehouse an hour ago to ask about predicted delivery because I forgot to ask on the phone the other day. Just got this reply:
Thank you for enquiry.
We’re currently expecting our first shipment of Fuji X100s to arrive in stock on the 18th to the 21th of this month.
I have been advised that they are experiencing a worldwide shortage so we’re uncertain whether our first order will be fulfilled but currently have had no indications it won’t be.
Hmm ... 18th to the 21st! My birthday is on the 20th! :D
Hopefully the little Fuji elves are working around the clock! :)
No. I just have no use for a camera like X100. Nevertheless, I'm happy for everyone who will get one - especially Keith - and look forward to see your results.
thinkfloyd
03-10-2011, 01:00
I'd like to. I used to have an RD-1 and M8 with a 3 lens kit. I sold them all to be able to send my 4-year old daughter to the best school. I loved my rangefinders, but I love my daughter more. But I do miss having a decent (IQ, controls, etc) camera I can bring anywhere. Once I get back on my feet and IF the price drops to about $800, I will get one :)
John Robertson
03-10-2011, 01:50
Fortunately Toyota weren't involved with the X100! :D
OOOOH thats hard Keith, but it just shows what can happen even to a highly thought of make.:rolleyes:
OurManInTangier
03-10-2011, 03:23
No. Not for me just yet. I'm trying to be good and wait until its been in production for a while. All too often I've jumped in early ( the last time being with the M8 ) when waiting a few extra months or even a year would have seen prices begin to settle, small issues be sorted and generally have a greater wealth of information to make a properly informed decision.
Oh yeah I nearly forgot, .... and there's the issue of being a jobbing freelancer in the midst of a recession making £1000 too rich for my blood right now. With plenty of kit to do my job already a Fuji X100 would be a waste of money right now, shame though as I would love to have one:cool:
With M8x2,Canon 5D,EP-2,stacks of digi P&S and loads of film gear I hardly need any more cameras.
No. A redundant piece of machine that does nothing that hasn't been done before. And what it does now is no where near worth to spend 1000 dollars on. Imagine what you can do with 1000 dollars, but people insist on dropping it on something that is 'but a thing'. Stop being so materialistic.
It's a bit hard to make photographs without SOME material, isn't it? Perhaps you meant stop being so gear-obsessed? ;)
I'm so very tempted to buy one for personal use vs. 20+lb bag of Nikon gear. More likely to take it everywhere, much less to get between me and creating an interesting image.
While I still find film fascinating, I think I'd likely use it more than my M2, which, while I love it dearly, tends to languish in the shadows.
jsrockit
03-10-2011, 03:59
I prefer my compact, high quality, minimalist Ricoh GXR.
How is the GXR more minimalist than the X100?
helenhill
03-10-2011, 04:07
I just figured out that I can get over 1200 donuts for the price of the X100... by the time I'm done, it won't matter what camera I want to use anymore.
LOL !!!!!!
Do Like this....though YOU may Die from a Sugar Rush :eek:
What sort [of field camera]? I ask because they're often SO different from one another.
I'm looking for a foldable one, probably a Toyo 45CF or something similar. It was not that expensive in the first place, and it's not made out of wood. A wooden camera is a thought that's a little scary for me. :)
Recommendations are welcome, of course.
I'm feeling irresponsible. Folks have three cameras and don't need any more. I reached that point a long time ago. Probably, sometime during the ice age. For me, photography is a hobby and a fun distraction. Actual material need is not considered. Perhaps, it should be.
Last year I was sure that I would be in the first wave, but now I'm pretty certain that I'll be in the second wave or at least six months out. I'm not waiting for anything in particular to occur. I can afford it. When I'm ready, I intend to buy new, so I won't be lurking in the classifieds.
Right now, I'm enjoying shooting film, concentrating on printing, and working on a photo book. Hardware-wise, I've been playing around with my MFT camera and some recent Retina purchases. I've plenty to keep me entertained for a while.
I'm very excited for everyone, and I'm looking forward to all the reviews and postings showing off the camera.
/
I'm looking for a foldable one, probably a Toyo 45CF or something similar. It was not that expensive in the first place, and it's not made out of wood. A wooden camera is a thought that's a little scary for me. :)
Recommendations are welcome, of course.
As you are in Europe you might want to have a look at the cameras made by Mike Walker in the UK. They are all made from ABS with stainless steel hardware.
Walker Cameras
http://www.walkercameras.com
The Titan SF 45 is a regular folding camera, but I wish I had a project that justified purchasing one of the Titan XL Wide 5x7 cameras which are a non folding design. Very rugged and quick to set up!
Anyways, back to the Fuji X100...
FrozenInTime
03-10-2011, 22:04
I got bitten by being an early adopter for the E-P1.
A big factor is also that I hate the fly by wire focusing on the E-P1, and don't expect the X100 to be any better.
So as good as the X100 seems, I'm more excited about the possibilities of the Ricoh GXR M-module, so will wait an see what happen later on in the year.
Why is there next to no buzz about the Ricoh ?
Roger Hicks
03-10-2011, 23:49
Why is there next to no buzz about the Ricoh ?
Mainly 'cause it's ugly, I think. The X100 is much prettier.
Cheers,
R.
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Why is there next to no buzz about the Ricoh ?
the viewfinder is an afterthought EVF that sits as an unwieldy attachment compared to x100 optical built in AND evf, the controls aren't mechanical dials like the x100, the M lenses are full frame lenses and the M-mount GXR unit is a 1.6 crop sensor meaning you're not going to get true focal lengths.
GXR is still cool - just those are the reasons why it doesn't have the same buzz.
In the middle of all this X100 fervor I'm reminded that my D700 is simply awesome. I was post processing images today that I shot last week at a gallery opening and I'm blown away at the performance of the Nikon at 3200 ISO with the Distagon in these conditions ... they make a complete mockery of what the M8 was delivering.
As much as I'm chomping at the bit to get my new Fuji I'm also aware that the poor thing has a tough task ahead of it and a lot to live up to! :p
I am not buying one. But I'm really happy for those who have. If this camera is a real hit, there will be more like it, which can only be a good thing.
... they make a complete mockery of what the M8 was delivering.
As much as I'm chomping at the bit to get my new Fuji I'm also aware that the poor thing has a tough task ahead of it and a lot to live up to! :p
Keith: Do you believe that the fuji will deliver better than the M8?
- Charlie
Keith: Do you believe that the fuji will deliver better than the M8?
- Charlie
In some ways maybe ... the problem could be focusing in the dim light where often the contrast points available for the camera's autofocus will be edges of video screens and other weird things! :p
The M8 had a lot of short comings with it's crappy high ISO performance and poor dynamic range but it was easy to focus ... easier than the Nikon actually! The Fuji's 3200 ISO performance seems brilliant and they claim this camera offers the best dynamic range of anything they've made ... if I can focus it consistently it will easily outperform the M8 IMO. :)
I'm not Keith but FWIW my opinion is that the x100 will be different not better or worse, ie cmos sensors are better at high iso but not as great as ccds at low iso (again, my opinion/preference). This diff in high iso will probably be exacerbated by the age of the M8. Also building a whole camera and sensor around only one lens is also an advantage that will probably have some bearing in IQ, specifically anything to do with corners, colour fidelity in funky light and other curve balls.
Then again, regardless of IQ, the m8 is a leica, it has a leica VF/RF, it's built like a leica and it changes lenses. If you absolutely need these things then they make all the difference in the world.
I'm not Keith but FWIW my opinion is that the x100 will be different not better or worse, ie cmos sensors are better at high iso but not as great as ccds at low iso (again, my opinion/preference). This diff in high iso will probably be exacerbated by the age of the M8. Also building a whole camera and sensor around only one lens is also an advantage that will probably have some bearing in IQ, specifically anything to do with corners, colour fidelity in funky light and other curve balls.
Then again, regardless of IQ, the m8 is a leica, it has a leica VF/RF, it's built like a leica and it changes lenses. If you absolutely need these things then they make all the difference in the world.
Very true ... if subsequent digital M's start to match Canon/Nikon etc in the high ISO stakes nothing could possibly be better in these types of low light situations. Price is the killer though!
Mainly 'cause it's ugly, I think. The X100 is much prettier.
Cheers,
R.
That nex camera is much uglier.
Seriously, my vote is no for now. Too many cameras right now.
Very true ... if subsequent digital M's start to match Canon/Nikon etc in the high ISO stakes nothing could possibly be better in these types of low light situations.
yeah, I reckon the key is using cmos. But we still havent seen full frame cmos with the lens so close to the sensor, so who knows what are the design challenges involved...
you know what would be really great for low light? Active infrared, like the Hexar AF or Fuji GA645. I never understood why this system disappeared... Dont know if you've ever tried it but it's mindblowing, you can lock yourself up in your closet and the AF will catch immediately in total darkness, no hunting no nothing. Puts any DSLR to shame.
yeah, I reckon the key is using cmos. But we still havent seen full frame cmos with the lens so close to the sensor, so who knows what are the design challenges involved...
you know what would be really great for low light? Active infrared, like the Hexar AF or Fuji GA645. I never understood why this system disappeared... Dont know if you've ever tried it but it's mindblowing, you can lock yourself up in your closet and the AF will catch immediately in total darkness, no hunting no nothing. Puts any DSLR to shame.
Didn't Canon have some attachment for their DSLRs that projects an infra red net or something to allow them to focus virtually in the dark? I seem to remeber Pickett mentioning such a thing in a thread.
As an aside I can't help but wonder about Japan and it's shocked population and the general effect on industry as a result of this terrible earthquake and tsunami. I don't think anyone should be holding their breath for their X100 at the moment ... that obviously traumatised nation has other priorities! :(
f16sunshine
03-11-2011, 04:55
Good luck to all you early adopters. :D
I'll wait until Aperture and LR can import the x100 raw files. What sort of pos program did fuji ship with the camera to convert RAW? I remember waiting months for Adobe to update for my lumix lx3. What a pain to work only in jpeg or convert RAW in silkypix ( really a sh!t program).
Is it the same thing as the flashgun's red beam?. The one I'm talking about is invisible.
But yeah what happened in Japan and NZ freaked me out... I've been in dozens of earthquakes, including the '99 Athens one with 20 victims but never in anything so big. My thoughts are with them, I'd donate my x100 if it'd make any difference.
tedwhite
03-11-2011, 06:38
Speaking of infrared, when the Minolta Maxxum 7000 AF was introduced in about 1986 I bought one in St. Louis from City Photo Stock House (I think that was the name - owner was Jack Stroebel). He had me take one of his sales girls into their darkroom (hardly a bad idea), point the camera at her, activate the flash, then turn out the lights and release the shutter. Resulting in a perfectly focused photograph!
jsrockit
03-11-2011, 08:48
In the middle of all this X100 fervor I'm reminded that my D700 is simply awesome. I was post processing images today that I shot last week at a gallery opening and I'm blown away at the performance of the Nikon at 3200 ISO with the Distagon in these conditions ... they make a complete mockery of what the M8 was delivering.
As much as I'm chomping at the bit to get my new Fuji I'm also aware that the poor thing has a tough task ahead of it and a lot to live up to! :p
For pure bang for the buck and latest tech, it is hard to beat the Nikon and Canon stuff. However, ergomonics and a good comfortable user experience are important to many people and is why we prefer to deal with the M8 and / or the Fuji.
Roberto V.
03-11-2011, 18:24
I would definitely have one on order right now if Ricoh hadn't announced their plans to make an M-mount module for the GXR. I'll wait to see how that one turns out.
robklurfield
03-11-2011, 18:48
I'm not buying one of these because I simply don't have the money and think it wouldn't add much to what I do. Nevertheless, I think they look cool and suspect that they'll be great fun to use.
So, here's my question: if the X100 didn't look as nice as it does (the designers did a great job from an aesthetic standpoint, I think ... the whole M-look is a great design conceit), but worked just exactly as advertised, would you still be buying one? What if it were just plain ugly? Would you buy it?
Just like a lot of folks here, I am simple-minded and easily enamored by shiny objects. If it looked truly awful, I probably wouldn't even be looking at any of these threads about it, as I'm happy with my gear and would probably (will probably) spend money on more film gear next.
My next question is, how many of you that are buying one would be disappointed if in a year if Fuji came out with an X200 that takes M-mount or LTM lenses?
Product life cyles these days are so short that it can make one either laugh or cry (an M8 owner, am I, who pined for a while when the M9 came out; but I'm still happy with the M8). I'm curious what others make of this phenomenon.
Anyway, the X100 looks cool. If I had gazillion bucks, I'd probably get one, but since I don't, I won't. For all those of you who are waiting for yours, I hope they're great fun.
I have my name in for one
The local shop expect them to be here in 4 or 5 days
So by mid next week I should have a new toy:)
It's a "no" for me.
But if it had 50mm lens, it would be a "YES PLEASE!"
Frank Version Two
03-11-2011, 19:30
I wonder where they might be in the manufacturing and shipping process now that this major earthquake has struck?
A camera is not important in the big picture but it would be nice to know all the same. The impact of the quake is an important question: What will the economic impact be to Japan and the World's economy?
I wonder where they might be in the manufacturing and shipping process now that this major earthquake has struck?
A camera is not important in the big picture but it would be nice to know all the same. The impact of the quake is an important question: What will the economic impact be to Japan and the World's economy?
The Japanese are very resilient people and their export trade is ultra important to them ... even more so now IMO. The speed at which they recover from this disaster wlll be a credit to them and a testimony to all that they have survived previously I'm sure.
raystinger
03-11-2011, 20:09
Just bought it 2 days ago and I have been very pleased with it so far. The handling is good and resembles a rangefinder to a large extent. I fell in love with the OVF as soon as I tried the demo set. There is no complains on the image quality too. Noise is pretty well controlled across the entire range up to ISO 6400. But do note that I'm someone who is rather tolerant towards noise considering that I do not hesitate using my GRD3 at ISO1600 when the situation calls for it. Initially I planned to buy the x100 to replace my GRD3. However, after a few days of trials, I decided to keep both since they serves different purpose in my opinion. The x100, while has excellent IQ and relatively good handling, it is no where as discrete as my all black GRD3 and I hope that Fuji will take a leave out of the GRD3's customization implementation and apply it to the next X100 firmware update. Till then, both cameras will have a place in my bag and I think I'm covered for most street photography with these 2 cameras. :)
chris00nj
03-14-2011, 07:09
My two issues:
1. Despite the 35mm equivalency, it's still a 23mm lens, which means depth of field will always be very wide. Nice in some circumstances, but not so good for portraits.
2. Spending a $1,000 without ever being able to see it or handle it is a tough sell.
If I had a disposable income then yes, but as a broke college student, my Oly 35SP will do fine for now. Perhaps one day when I win the lottery :D
I actually am very much the early adopter, with cameras, computers, electronic gadgets...you name it. As such I was very early on the pre-order list.
That said, I actually just canceled my order yesterday. Way too much in my camera inventory right now and I just knew I'd get the camera, use it and love it's viewfinder (a hybrid I've been anxious), and then it would sit. I'm on a bit of a film kick so my M's and G2's are getting good workouts, with the M8 first off the bench.
A moment of mature consideration in a purchase, shocking for me! Hopefully everyone who does have one coming will enjoy them to the fullest, should be terrific!
Kent
I actually am very much the early adopter, with cameras, computers, electronic gadgets...you name it. As such I was very early on the pre-order list.
That said, I actually just canceled my order yesterday. Way too much in my camera inventory right now and I just knew I'd get the camera, use it and love it's viewfinder (a hybrid I've been anxious), and then it would sit. I'm on a bit of a film kick so my M's and G2's are getting good workouts, with the M8 first off the bench.
A moment of mature consideration in a purchase, shocking for me! Hopefully everyone who does have one coming will enjoy them to the fullest, should be terrific!
Kent
I supect that with the delay in shipping quite a few people will do what you've just done.
I just got a notice from my supplier informing me that their estimated delivery date has now been changed to 'not known!'
Interesting Keith, I forgot about that note from Fuji. I do look forward to the day yours arrives, quite a RFF story!
Enjoy, whenever you receive it.
I supect that with the delay in shipping quite a few people will do what you've just done.
I just got a notice from my supplier informing me that their estimated delivery date has now been changed to 'not known!'
Frank Version Two
03-15-2011, 21:44
I've been nuts about the X100 but just cancelled my deposit too. If I had it, I'd be using it like crazy but I like to know where I'll be and not be stuck waiting for the delivery like some schoolboy.... Also the last few digital sessions have felt a little too much like spray and pray, so going to back to film for small-format stuff is good discipline. I'll get sick of scanning it about the time these cameras come back on line I suspect....
It will also be good to let it get past those first version hurdles, the firmware updates, the inevitable magenta vertical banding at a certain ISO, etc.
jsrockit
03-17-2011, 04:38
I'm still in the mix for an early model. I won't cancel my order.
foolproof
03-17-2011, 10:08
Apparently mine just came in (Ireland) so it looks like a few pre-orders got shipped
My two issues:
1. Despite the 35mm equivalency, it's still a 23mm lens, which means depth of field will always be very wide. Nice in some circumstances, but not so good for portraits.
2. Spending a $1,000 without ever being able to see it or handle it is a tough sell.
B&H gives you a two week return policy after which if you don't like it you can return it with no penatly.
Portraits don't always have to have a knocked out of focus background. EVen if the camera was full frame with a 1.4 aperture, I'd aks why not just use an 85mm if you want to lose the background.
Thats great I wish my dealer offered that kind of return policy
If it is to fess up, I guess I should.
I am getting one and I am one of those who could not wait. I went to Ebay and paid the price.
It is comming.
Yes ... I did get the odd whiff of film verses digital myself! :D
Isn't this what all the hype of the camera is all about? How the X100 looks & operates like a film camera? I'd love for the X100 to be my first digital camera but at $1200.00 + cost of accessories for what comes down to a fixed lens P&S I can't really afford one right now. Besides when all said & done, you compare the final print to that of perhaps a Canon G11, is it really worth the extra cost? It almost seems that the "you guys that must have one" have fallen under the film vs digital debate in a new & profound way called design. The folks who envisioned the X100 should get a high achievement award because they sure netted a big crop of fish which isn't a bad thing.:D
Isn't this what all the hype of the camera is all about? How the X100 looks & operates like a film camera? I'd love for the X100 to be my first digital camera but at $1200.00 + cost of accessories for what comes down to a fixed lens P&S I can't really afford one right now. Besides when all said & done, you compare the final print to that of perhaps a Canon G11, is it really worth the extra cost? It almost seems that the "you guys that must have one" have fallen under the film vs digital debate in a new & profound way called design. The folks who envisioned the X100 should get a high achievement award because they sure netted a big crop of fish which isn't a bad thing.:D
Ain't that the truth! :D
Besides when all said & done, you compare the final print to that of perhaps a Canon G11, is it really worth the extra cost?
Hell yeah. I hate the infinite depth of field thing, and the g11 is useless at anything over iso200. So basically really unusable for me. And I actually had one for 2 weeks, so I'm speaking from experience.
Hell yeah. I hate the infinite depth of field thing, and the g11 is useless at anything over iso200. So basically really unusable for me. And I actually had one for 2 weeks, so I'm speaking from experience.
Just slide that noise suppresor all the way to the right on LR3. Works quite well on my Power shot A570
Just slide that noise suppresor all the way to the right on LR3. Works quite well on my Power shot A570
Or, just get an X100...and have shallow DOF as well as less noise. Got mine today (at last)!
R
Or, just get an X100...and have shallow DOF as well as less noise. Got mine today (at last)!
R
Impressions!
Just slide that noise suppresor all the way to the right on LR3. Works quite well on my Power shot A570
Robs detail and fine color acuity on my 5d when used too much, let alone a tiny sensor camera. The x100 at 12,800 is probably better than the G11 at 400.
Impressions!
Figured I should keep those in the thread I started before, (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1577974#post1577974) when I first tried it out in store...but overall, quite liking it. Lighter than I expected somehow, too!
R
jsrockit
03-21-2011, 04:13
I'd love for the X100 to be my first digital camera but at $1200.00 + cost of accessories for what comes down to a fixed lens P&S I can't really afford one right now.
How is a fully manual camera a point and shoot? Does the fixed lens make it a point and shoot?
Besides when all said & done, you compare the final print to that of perhaps a Canon G11, is it really worth the extra cost?
Yes, it is. APS-C kills small sensors in many ways.
How is a fully manual camera a point and shoot? Does the fixed lens make it a point and shoot?
Yes, it is. APS-C kills small sensors in many ways.
Perhaps not, but like my Canonet QL17GIII it does have it's limitations like a P&S.
That's it, It's the digital Canonet that Canon should of made but added a rangefinder. :D
I was only using the Canon G11 as an example. I really know nothing about the camera. I like the X100 but like most new toys it's too expensive for what it is IMO. A good RD-1 or M8 can be had for a few hundred dollars more!
Brian Sweeney
03-21-2011, 16:28
Did this suddenly become a film vs digital thread?
Typewriters vs computers?
Do I pick film vs Digital, or Off-Topic...
Did this suddenly become a film vs digital thread?
Typewriters vs computers?
Do I pick film vs Digital, or Off-Topic...
Good threat Brian ... keep them in line! :D
Let's not ruin a fun thread ... again! :bang:
Yep, pre-ordered from Vanbar in Oz a while ago. Just got the card charged yesterday, so it must be delivered soon!
Brian Sweeney
03-21-2011, 16:39
I have 75% of the funds for the X-100 from selling gear. Started when this thread opened. After paying off the M9.
Yep, pre-ordered from Vanbar in Oz a while ago. Just got the card charged yesterday, so it must be delivered soon!
That's encouraging!
Maybe I will get mine this month after all. I gather all the cameras coming to Oz in the first shipment arrive at Fujifilm Australia then get despatched to wherever!
Yep got mine from vanbar today :)
Yep got mine from vanbar today :)
Well that sucks! :eek:
Where's mine ... what the hell are 'Digital Camera Warehouse' doing? :p
Have fun you lucky sod! :)
leicashot
03-21-2011, 17:15
Yep got mine from vanbar today :)
How is it Spyro? I'm from Melbourne and have been spoilt living in LA for gear, but we're running behind here :mad:
shashinka-ichiban
03-21-2011, 18:33
Ugh wish I were in the UK or Oz right now. Waiting for one in the states is murder, and if I were back in Japan, I'd be so busy working I wouldn't even remember the camera existed.
Well, mine's been delivered now, but as Vanbar delivered it to my home address, not the requested work address, i'll have to wait a couple of days for the couriers to re-direct it!
Well, mine's been delivered now, but as Vanbar delivered it to my home address, not the requested work address, i'll have to wait a couple of days for the couriers to re-direct it!
A little frustrating I'd imagine! :D
When I bought my D700 It was supposed to be delivered via Fedex who made a token effort to find where I lived then handed it to the postal system because it was all too hard for them. A camera that should have arrived two days after I ordered it took a week and half to get to me and then I had to drive fifteen k's to our local mail center to pick it up!
When my Fuji does eventually arrive I'll be driving to the other side of Brisbane to pick it up from Digital Camera Warehouse ... I'm not going through that again! :p
Im a no, would pondered it if it was a fair bit less. But I got an Oly Epl-1 and 17mm for about a third of the price. I am reasonably well in to the m4/3 cameras having both the Ep-1 and Epl-1 along with a G1, the whole lot cost me the same as the X100 is listed for. But I like the idea of the X100 so maybe in a few years when a used one is £250 or less.
Nope. My D700 is the only digital I need, the rest is film.
jsrockit
04-04-2011, 05:27
So, it looks like many potential X100 buyers are dropping off at other forums... anyone here change their mind?
I got mine this weekend but so far have been unable to give it a real try out. Got a couple of spare batteries today. Hoping to get some shooting done tomorrow.
Picked mine up on Saturday and used it that night at a political event. Also took along an M4 with 90mm glass in case I couldn't get close. Was able to get close so only took 4 or 5 with the Leica.
What immediately struck me was how quiet the shutter is with the artificial beeps turned off. A couple times I had to chimp just to be sure the shot had been recorded. Bet they put out an all black model and call it the XN-100 , N for ninja. ;-)
Seems like there's a big demand for this camera, and I can see why now that I've got one in my hands. There's even a person scalping one on the local online buy and sell site. He's priced it ~ $280 over what I paid.
Glenn
fixed point
04-04-2011, 15:21
So, it looks like many potential X100 buyers are dropping off at other forums... anyone here change their mind?
The reports of a poor menu system and tiny rear controls haven't deterred me -- it sounds like I can get all of the functionality of my M7+35 Cron+Tri-X without ever going into a menu. Anything beyond that is just icing on the cake in my opinion.
I'm just hoping I can find one before visiting China as I've already sold my M7.
Here's one of the JPGs from the meeting I shot with the X-100 along with a 100% crop.
Most of the settings were the defaults. The specs were, 400asa, 1/30", f/2.0 . Auto white balance appeared good.
Glenn
shashinka-ichiban
04-04-2011, 19:41
So, it looks like many potential X100 buyers are dropping off at other forums... anyone here change their mind?
Nope, X100 is not going to be my primary camera, still planning to keep Nikons for that. Still on pre-order, hope it arrives before going back to Japan next month.
jsrockit
04-05-2011, 04:19
Damn, I was hoping the pre-orders were dropping off... ;)
What's this about a new camera? ;)
Clickie McPete
04-06-2011, 02:58
Yup, I got one as a present to myself for surviving a surgery. Life is short and I'm determined to have a good time this spring. I've had the GF-1 for a year and just sold it to a friend so I could defray the cost of the X100. This thing beats the pants off the GF-1 in all areas IMO. The viewfinder is such a treat. I'm not going to stop shooting film anytime soon but it's nice to have a high quality compact digital as well.
tedwhite
04-06-2011, 07:18
Glenn, that crop sure held together well.
kylebarrow
04-06-2011, 23:39
I had decided I wasn't going to buy the X100 when it came out here in Japan but instead wait until reviews where out and the verdict was in.
Then I got to play with one at my local camera store...sold. Similar feeling to when I handled my first RF.
Jani_from_Finland
04-08-2011, 14:49
My has arrived at the seller for the original price 999,90 but i only have 700 at the moment. Darn...
My has arrived at the seller for the original price 999,90 but i only have 700 at the moment. Darn...
Do you really need both your kidneys? :D
The camera is just now coming out. You have plenty of time to save up. Maybe it will be a bit more, but it will also be a bit more refined by that time.
paultreacy
04-26-2011, 14:47
Have had mine for a month or so. It's a brilliant little camera. Files are stunning. Response is immediate and I've never heard anything quieter.
Unfortunately, Fuji UK will dispatch a van on the morrow to fetch mine for repair as the viewfinder shutter has gotten stuck halfway which is a shame as I need it on Friday to shoot a republican street party in response to the royal wedding. Will have to fall back on my trusty D200 and old primes and perhaps my Olympus Pen for some hd video.
I set up THE X100 FILES (http://thex100files.com) to showcase the images I've been making with it.
My pro site is at PAULTREACY.com (http://paultreacy.com) and I'm a founding member of The UK Street Collective (http://ukstreetcollective.co.uk) should anyone be interested.
Funny thing is my lens hood for the X100 is due to arrive tomorrow as I send the thing away for repair. I'll miss it. It really is a superb piece of kit for a street lensman like me. I hugely recommend it.
Paul Treacy
PHOTOHUMOURIST (http://photohumourist.com)
intheviewfinder
04-26-2011, 17:17
Very nice selection Paul. It really shows what can be done with a 'quirky' instrument.
Mostly what I see from this camera is it's ability to perform in situations that I would like to use it.
I'm just awaiting the arrival.
--Rich
No plans to buy one, or any other digital camera at the moment. My existing digital camera still works well enough.
Next photographic purchase will probably be a 35mm lens and finder for my IIIf.
There are so many cameras I would rather have.
Please name them! :D
~ Bet they put out an all black model and call it the XN-100 , N for ninja. ;-)
... ninja wore only deepest blue at night and never black. ;)
jsrockit
04-27-2011, 03:57
Grrrr, trying to be an immediate owner has proven impossible.
Grrrr, trying to be an immediate owner has proven impossible.
LOL ... it is an exercise in tolerance for sure! :D
jsrockit
05-02-2011, 04:53
"Immediate" owner as of tomorrow...
tedwhite
05-02-2011, 07:16
User review in today's NY Times (click on any story and an image of the X100 should come up in a sidebar). I thought it was merely an ad for the camera, but it can't be as the owner of the camera (sounds like an amateur) points out some of its faults, some of which I was unaware. Also post some pics, one of which - probably a photograph of his son - is a good indicator of how good the camera is at portraiture.
paultreacy
05-03-2011, 23:04
So many people are too quick to point out the camera's faults. I've found that the X100 can be configured so many different ways as to suit just about every photographer. Too many of the reviews I've read that criticised the camera clearly didn't read the manual. So many things on the unit can be enabled or disabled as preferences dictate allowing the camera to be accurately customised. Mine works super fast and completely silently. No lingering picture reviews after exposure. No shutter sound. No AF searching. Immediate restart. No automatic switching between OVF and screen as that just made me nuts so I turned it off. Simple. For my pro use I have it completely pared down to the minimum. Lightening quick and quiet. No need for all the bells and whistles which are all activated as factory default. You just need to spend time setting the thing up to your way of working and there are 3 custom settings if you want them. I don't bother.
The X100 Files (http://thex100files.com)
jsrockit
05-04-2011, 05:29
So many people are too quick to point out the camera's faults. I've found that the X100 can be configured so many different ways as to suit just about every photographer.
I agree....
DaveTaylor
05-04-2011, 14:43
Ha! My wait is over. I picked mine up from Henry's in Ottawa this afternoon. The store only got 2 cameras and I was #1 on their list. Just charging the battery and reading the manual.
huntjump
05-04-2011, 14:49
+1
Film is the reason why my photo passion revamped and the reason why I spend time here...
yup +2...or is it 3
intheviewfinder
05-06-2011, 08:51
My camera arrived from B&H this morning. I'll play with it over the next day or so and then Sunday take it out for a full blown excursion.
Mine came in from B&H yesterday evening. Will hopefully get a chance to play with it some later today.
andrewteee
08-31-2011, 12:22
Neat camera, but I was never able to find one, and now the NEX 7 has appeared -- so the moment is rather over, at least for me.
This past weekend I walked into a local camera store that I did not know even carried Fuji cameras and they had 7 X100s in stock. Well, 6 by the time I left.
New owners might want to check that their camera has the most recent firmware. There were quite a few fixes made in version 1.10 .
Hung, a member here, has just been kind enough to lend me his X100 for a trial. First impressions are that it is lighter than expected (which I don't like), and I'm having trouble with my right thumb accidentally pressing control buttons when I'm simply trying to grip the camera. I wish it was a little bigger and had more mass, and I wish the grip areas were a little better defined and cleared of controls. I'm comparing this of course with the cameras I use and like - Leica M (very few controls at all!) and the Pentax dSLRs which have a pretty good shape and grip for my hands.
I'll shoot with it over the next few days. Thanks Hung! :)
Neat camera, but I was never able to find one, and now the NEX 7 has appeared -- so the moment is rather over, at least for me.
Yeah. The Nex 5 image quality is so gorgeous, I am down for the 7.
capitalK
08-31-2011, 17:13
Picked up one 2 or 3 weeks ago. I hesitated on the first one in my town and missed out but I got one from the second shipment.
elmer3.5
08-31-2011, 17:35
Hi, i decided in favour of the leica x1!
umcelinho
08-31-2011, 17:42
well, order placed :)
I looked at it, compared it with the X1 and there was no contest despite the price difference. I liked the similarity with the M9, and the results from it to my mind have not caused any reconsideration of the decision. The price on a brand new X100 is dropping here in Singapore: 2 months ago it was around SGD 1595, then it dropped to SGD 1500 last month, now it is SGD 1450: this before asking "can you less it?" (Singlish for requesting a discount)
Latecomer
08-31-2011, 22:29
I was probably the first owner in Melbourne. Its peculiarities got me down and after a few weeks I sold it and retained the X1. I rue the day. What a mistake. I am now sitting on a waiting list with no idea when my number will come up.
gnarayan
08-31-2011, 22:56
My camera arrived from B&H this morning. I'll play with it over the next day or so and then Sunday take it out for a full blown excursion.
Rich, you may have actually given me a reason to come to those photomob things again :D
Cheers,
-Gautham
Cagliostro73
09-01-2011, 01:08
I'm currently testing one, for a friend of mine who's selling it in Italy.
I voted "yes" because it's a little lovely camera, very capable, with stunning IQ and low light efficiency IMHO.
The only flaw is the price and the firmware (i'm not updating it because the camera's not mine).
It's a complex toy with a lot of figures and must be deeply known and understood before completely judge it.
So, my judgment remains in the surface...
I'm a little late to this thread, but I just bought mine around an ago from Freestyle. Unfortunately I had to go directly back to work, so I can't use it yet, but the batteries are charging.
Ronald M
09-12-2011, 13:21
No, sorry. No fixed lens cameras for me. and if I would buy one, it would not be 23/35 mm focal.
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